General Supercharger Thread

Fwiw I ran the URD 160 temp thermostat on the s/c'd taco. I wasn't monitoring anything, but saw no issues

 

Had to remove my prefilter, was triggering rich bank codes.
Cut a clear lid for the Stillen and swapped in some thumb screws. The 7:30 screw hits the hood a tiny bit but makes it easier to inspect the filter.

 

Has that thing ever seen the road?! Ha! So fresh and so clean! Looks show-car worthy!

 

Haha! Its new AFE filter, had a K&N oiled and swapped this monstrosity in. The thing barely fits in the air box with little room to spare. I don't even think I have 10K on the truck plus its a second vehicle so I split the miles between them. Mostly working from home since the Rona hit too.

 

This is the filter if others partake in the Stillen fuckery:
https://afepower.com/afe-power-21-91119-magnum-flow-pro-dry-s-air-filter

They sell two oiled versions of it too. I went dry...snicker

 

I need to figure out a way to make that work in the maggy box

 

The fireman build cut up his maggie box with a custom intake. I would probably start there for inspiration.

 

Yet another question for you guys: what made you guys choose the Magnuson over the Harrop, or vice versa?

This is moreso for the guys that have purchased following the Harrop becoming available. I know for a long time the Maggy was the only option anyway.

 

At the time of purchase no tuning options existed for 2019+. Harrop Stage 1 runs on the stock fuel map without a tune. This thread actually originally started as a Harrop Stage 1 thread.

 

Yeah, aware of the tuning thing with the Harrop.

Just trying to get an idea of why people choose one vs the other now that they're both available and tuning software supports them. The Harrop definitely allows for additional modification paths on the hunt for additional power, no doubt about that. The lower average IATs are certainly nice, along with the additional fueling percentage bump you can get with their included pump.

 

Personally, I really do see and can appreciate the simplicity of just slapping the Maggy on, throwing on an aftermarket tune, and calling it good.

 

Well, this testing by DAP kind of sold me. Same truck, same day, same tuner. Other things I liked were the differences in design highlighted on Viktor’s one YouTube video. I also wasn’t sure if I’d be installing myself and I liked that I could easily access all of the bolts, the magnuson has a few bastard ones. When you look at the real world performance though, I think they’re extremely similar unless you’re going to have a built engine and turn up the boost. Viktor’s video for reference….https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L3CpQU2v868

 

I'd seen that video awhile back when doing initial research, I liked the explanation between them.

Thanks for the DAP screenshot. Definitely impressive stuff.

 

I would’ve chosen the harrop if I didn’t get this maggy at such a good price. The harrop is much more efficient as we know. But the maggy does sound pretty damn good

 

If they're the same price I'd do the Harrop. $1000+ savings then get the Magnuson.

 

I just wanted the TRD letters in my engine bay lol

 

It helps to reduce peak temp, I believes there's a limit of how cool you can run, i.e. if engine is emitting more heat than radiator can dissipate than to help to keep it down would be the rad, but thermostat help to slow down the rise in temp.

Years ago I had a BMW 540, I loved that thing, spent way too much money on it and those v8 runs hot, coolant temp is often 230f when it's summer time, swapped to a 80c/176f thermostat and car seems happier, and radiators lasted longer, I'm sure there's a limit on how cold to run it before it hurts efficiency, but these are middle Eastern/Australia spec Toyota parts, so figure cheap insurance.

If someone makes a TRD top plate, I'd buy one.

 

Viktor's comparison video also played a big role in my decision making. I was also interested in "future proofing" if I did decide to get more performance.

 

RE: Thermostat. I bought one a few months ago and decided against installing. It's a tradeoff. Made more sense if I was WOTing around. So far the stock system does a good job in my application for my environment.

 

I got a maggie installed a few months ago and knew full well the harrop was available and superior in most factors. The difference though was that although I do most things DIY house/car/etc. I wanted as close to stock as possible and serviceable at the dealer. Furthermore my nearest dealer routinely installs maggie superchargers (but never a harrop which is interesting) and offered a discount as well. Now it could be the harrop ends up being more reliable than the maggie but I was going off the aspect that Toyota had the TRD versions as an option for several years and there seems to be minimal long term issues with the design/additional power for those using the originals from 2007/2008 etc. From my understanding the issues tend to arise from pushing the maggie/engine further than “stage 1”. If I was making a purpose built drag/fun/TRXhunter truck then harrop would have been the best choice.

 

Well we (YotaWerx Tuning) have a Magnuson SC on one of our Tundras (2018MY), and we're looking at putting the Harrop on our other Tundra (2020MY) and developing our tunes for both. Goal is to offer something like we did for the 3GTacoma back in May where people can use it as a plug and play option, ready to go, prioritizing low end and mid range torque where it's really wanted. We already started working on test tunes on the Maggy tundra, it's running stronger than the Maggy calibration for sure (not surprising, given the restrictions Maggy has to meet/observe WRT CARB). Weekend before last we were out in Phoenix visiting one of our networked tuners out there and did a lot of testing with regard to drivability enhancement. But given the differences in the kits when you look at the maggy option vs Harrop's stage 1, it seems to me like we'd inevitably have two different tunes available just due to the inherent superior capability of the harrop kit.

 

https://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/catalog/engine-solutions/TVS-x3100.html?wtredirect=www.eatonperformance.com/x3100

Will it fit?

 

We Maggy boys have the TVS1900...not the 2650....so no, not without a lot more money spent...

 

I am positive I saw the TRD Lid for sale on one of the Toyota parts websites, while researching fit kit parts. Hard to search for because a lot of the items are just labeled Service Part supercharger and then a part number. Only in the items description will it say Lid. If I see it again I'll tag ya

 

Possibly. The Whipple has the same or close volume. I doubt Maggie will release a new blower for Gen 2/2.5

 

People that have bought prospeed things, how fast are they? Since it's been over a week now and all I got was an email asking what year my truck was. I kind of assumed injectors and intake were off the shelf parts, but my impatience is getting the best of me but I don't want to annoy them.

 

Well for me not very fast. Ordered a pulley that never showed canceled that and put that money towards the catch can. 4-5 weeks I think it was cant remember 100%

 

Great -_-

 

Any other place to order the 750cc injectors? What brand are they? Not sure that was listed on PS website. I need to order some in the next few weeks.

I'm going to email Figs and see if they can get them. They just added 650cc injectors to their site last month