Remove rear sway bar?

Has anyone removed the rear sway bar yet? The ride of my '22 sr5 is freaking awful. It's so jittery and not at all like my '20, which I loved (and dearly regret getting rid of, but that's another story).
I've messed around with tire pressure and it's made little to no difference.

 

Airbags or coil rear end? Doubtful that removing rear swaybar provides any benefit to thr jitters

 

I would imagine you would have a negative effect removing the rear sway. That would make the front end extra stiff since there would be nothing counteracting the sway bar there.

My stock F150 was what I would describe as jittery. When it would hit an off angle bump the whole chassis would shimmy/wiggle. The answer was Bilstein 5100’s that had more dampening. Nothing saying it has to be Bilsteins but i would imagine some better shocks may help

 

Have a 22 TRD OR. Looks like Billsteins 4600 shocks/struts. Not happy as experience the same with back end. I will upgrade sometime in the near future. Looking to replace current Sway bars to TRD Bars Front and back. Waiting to see what Bilstein offers in higher level shocks/struts as had good experience with 5100's on a T4R and also T4R TRD Pro.

 

Is the rear sway bar standard on '22? It was optional on older models except for TRD-Pro I think. My TRD-Off-Road didn't come with rear sway bar.
I don't think removing it should cause any issues. Smoother ride if you are not racing or cornering fast! Should be a quick thing to test. No?

 

I believe US model TRD OR have Front/Rear Bars. These are not as big with less force then the TRD Pro F/R Bars. Taking the rear bar off could cause tracking issues when passing over un-even road surfaces. Potential suspension loading resulting in the back ending jumping or the truck tramlining.

I do a lot of suspension adjustment on my fun ride and it's a science to dial in for various road conditions

 

I suspect there is a difference between toyota specified Bilsteins and the ones Bilstein is give freedom to tune independently.

The new truck is a 5 link, coil spring rear. Any coil spring soild axle ive seen has a sway bar. Ram 1500’s have them, my 2006 Liberty, my Lexus GX, 4runners, Land Cruisers, 1st gen sequoia etc.

 

I’m honestly shocked that you think it’s worse. I have a section of highway near my house that would literally bounce drinks out of the cup holders when driving the speed limit in my 2020. In the new 2022, you hardly notice anything more than a rumble.

For what it’s worth, your sway bars are not what will fix your problem. Sway bars resist body roll. You probably would benefit from new shocks.

 

Indeed. There also seems to be a fair number of people who don't really understand how sway bars affect bump compliance either.

 

Ive been running my F150 with the sway bar disconnected and its great. Where I used to have to gingerly drive into the local gas station parking lot to avoid being thrown from the truck I can now bomb in carelessly.

But thats the front sway bar. I dont have a rear. I feel like if i had a rear it would help counteract the front bar causing the truck to rock side to side over bumps. If he removes the rear bar, the front bar will have 100% control and the rear suspension will just follow to some degree

 

I'm very anti-sway bar in general (I run with no front or rear on my cars, front only on my truck like it came)

But I don't think thats your problem.

All that sway bar does, is increase your spring rate for side to side motion. It doesn't effect your suspension at all when hitting a bump straight on with both tires.

They are just there to keep the vehicle feeling more level when going around corners...(with the downside of reducing traction in cornering and suspension compliance on uneven surfaces)

First thing I would do is get an alignment. Thats usually what is most responsible for 'jittery' feelings.

 

So this question hits home for me. Ive had my truck for 12 years now and im currently at a loss for words as to describe how terrible it drives right now.

i had black oe shocks on it, replaced them with slightly stiffer new shocks, still nothing crazy. Yet it drives and jitters like it has a disease. I added front and rear TRD sway bars. Still drove like ass. I swapped the front back to stock, no help. Disconnected the rear sway bar. Zero help. Jitter is the best word to describe.

now I understand you have coils. My theory is currently that perhaps my rear springs are so worn they are constantly bouncing off of the later stages of the leaf pack. That doesn’t help you though. Disconneting my rear sWay didnt help the jitters one bit though i will say. It only smoothed out turning into a driveway. However the highway at 80mph feels worse without the RSB.
Tomorrow im gonna experiment with my helper springs installed with and without the RSB and see if that smoothes the jitters

im convinced that handling/ride needs perfect balance of shock damping and tire stiffness for the truck weight

 

If your tire pressure is too high or low it can induce jitters in a Tundra....I know this from experience. I can drastically change how my Tundra drives and rides with just a few pounds change in air pressure. This was true when running stock suspension and SL tires and is even more true running lift and E load tires.

 

100% agree. I was running 35/33 psi fr/rear.

i just upped it to 44 front 40 rear and ALOT of the jitters are gone. SL tires, im beginning to seriously reconsider my endorsement of SL tires for even daily driving comfort

 

And do an emergency lane change test. Start at 40 mph, yank the steering wheel hard into the next lane and correct. If the rear end doesn't twitch much, follows the front pretty good, go up to 60mph and try again. If the rear end without swaybar is difficult to control you need the rear swaybar. My '05 Tundra didn't pass that test, Hellwig rear swaybar went on fast.

 

I run no sway bars front and rear on my 2022 Tundra.

It’s more compliant IMO. 3” lift with 37x17’s

I removed the rear first and drove about 500 miles and then removed the front. Removing the front introduced more body roll than removing the rear. Body roll is quite manageable.

 

My 2022 sr5 off road 6.5 bed rides like a dream. Are you running a spacer lift? Also, mine is running 18" OEM Michelin tires. Many have rode in the truck and commented that it rides as nice as a car. I would think if you tow anything that would be a definite no go having coils instead of leafs

 

What suspension are you running? did you notice any aggressive understeer once the rear was removed or was it not a huge difference in body control?

 

Pro Comp Coilovers up front. RC UCA, Dobinson 2.5” linear springs in the rear with a 1” pro comp spacer on top, Dobinson ims rear shocks, Dobinson adjustable pan hard bar, RC diff drop and a few RC brackets here at there.

Inducing understeer would imply I’m carrying a fair amount of speed thru a corner, I’m not. There’s noticeable body roll vs stock, but I’m not pushing my truck to understeer or oversteer in a corner, I leave that for the race track.

 

Stiffer springs are a requirement to remove sway bars. @Shave Ice should have probably included all those suspension mods when he first advocated for removing them.

i used to have icon coilovers on my truck, zero issues removing the front sway bar. Ive tested it with stock shocks without the front sway bar, the truck was all over the freeway in turns. The body roll made handling uncomfortable. That’s because the coilovers were far stiffer low speed valving and heavier coils.