295/60r20 on +50 offset? Will it clear UCA?

Does anyone know if a 295/60r20 tire will fit on a rim with +50 offset? I have TSS Offroad rims and I believe that’s the offset they have. My main concern is clearing the UCA. I’m looking into putting a 2.5 level up front and SPC UCAs- so they won’t be stock. I’m not sure if they’ll give me more or less UCA clearance. Any input would be appreciated.

 

Or at least point me to a thread that discusses this topic. I cant seem to find any that pertain to the setup I wanna run.

 

Here is a 295/55/20 Nitto Ridge Grappler on a 20x9 +50mm offset wheel. There is pinky width of clearance to the UCA. I am not sure that a 295/60/20 would clear the UCA on that wheel. I guess it would depend on the tire. The Ridge Grapplers are super chunky. Maybe a highway tire would fit?



I am not sure if the SPC's would give anymore clearance over stock. It looks like there is more metal from the edge of the UCA to the ball joint center on the SPC's:

 

Yeah, that’s true. I guess I’ll just have to see some in person to compare. How are those Ridge Graps? I’ve heard that they’re bad in rain/wet roads… I’m between those and Recon Grapplers.

 

I am very happy with the Ridge Grapplers. I am on my second set (295/60/20). No complaints in the rain or on wet roads.

 

You could always get wheel spacers if buying new wheels is out of your budget.

 

I could get new rims, but I like these TSS ones. I’ve been told over and over to avoid spacers, so I’m gonna avoid them. If it comes down to it, I could stay with 285. I’d just have to find a new height/size ratio that works… How many miles have you been getting out of your Ridge Graps?

 

Based on the wear rate, I will get about 65000 miles out of this set. I have been working full time at home since the pandemic started, so I only drive about 5000 miles a year. These should last another 10 years

You could go with:

• 285/65/20
• 35x11.5

 

A big “turn off” for me is the weight… They are about 6-7lbs heavier than the Recons in the size I was looking at. I’ve seen people say they have balance issues, only last 35k miles, etc etc, so I’m just a little skeptical. How much do you think the additional weight would affect acceleration/performance? I’ll look into those sizes. I gotta see if they would even fit with a 2.5 level up front.

 

Heh... you are not lifting your truck and putting bigger tires on it for the on-road performance and acceleration Just build your truck so that you are happy with the way it looks. 6-7 pounds per tire is negligible. I would not worry about it.

I went from a 275/55/20 to a 295/55/20 and finally to 295/60/20. Overall, I went from 16-17 mpg to 13-14 mpg. I felt the decrease in acceleration going to that larger tire, but then I got a DAP tune so my butt dyno is telling me that it is just as fast as it was with the smaller tires

Since you want to stay with the higher offset wheels, the tires are not going to stick out as far and you will be able to run the larger tires just fine. You may have to trim some plastic, but that is no big deal. I had to do some trimming to fit the 34's on a +20mm offset wheel. Besides, you can fit 35's without a lift. You just have to trim more.
Here is the trimming that I did to fit the 34's:
https://www.tundras.com/threads/trimming-front-bumper-liner-and-mudflaps.63755/

I have had zero issues with the Ridge Grapplers. They are a great tire. I have bought two sets already and will buy them again for my next set.

BTW, are you in Texas?

 

Yup. I’m in Southlake specifically. It’s in the Northern part of DFW. I love the look of the Ridge, but I’m trying to.. yk, adult… I’ll just have to look at the Recons in person to see if I like their aggression level. They are rated at 55k miles, so that’s awesome. Don’t wanna spend 2k on tires to have them last me 30k miles and get me shit traction in the rain.

 

If you are ever in the Austin area, you are welcome to have a look at my truck. You can get first-hand experience with the Ridge Grapplers.

 

Damn man, was just in Leander not that long ago for a work trip. I know you said that the extra weight these tires have won’t be that big of a difference performance wise, but what about wear on the front suspension? Mines a 4x4 so I don’t wanna stress out the front too much… That’s why I’m only going 2.5 up front lol. Is yours 2 or 4 wheel drive?

 

I have a 3.5"/2.0" lift and 2wd. For 4wd, I would stay at 3" or less for the angle on the CV joints. Many people are running 37's on a 3" lift with 4wd and they are fine. I would not worry about going with 35" tires.

 

Ok. Hopefully this is the last question lol. The 295/60r20 would come out to a 33.9 inch tall tire, would the .7 inches the 285/65r20 adds make that much of a difference on the odometer? I don’t think it’ll have a gigantic effect- hoping not. In terms of height and width, I think I’m leaning towards the 295s (disregarding clearance). I feel like the extra width will help protect my rim more than the extra height the 285 size would give me. None of that matters if it doesn’t fit, so I should probably figure that out first.

 

The questions are all good, dude. Ask away. I had a ton of them when I was going through this process. There are so many combinations to consider it is mind-boggling.

I agree with you about the width. I think a 295 fits/looks better on a 9" wide wheel. 0.7" of total height is not that much of a difference. Also, keep in mind that a tire is only going to reach those diameters at full inflation. For example, the 295/60/20 Ridge Grapplers will measure 34" only at 80 PSI; which I will never run them at. At 40 PSI, they are about 33.5".

After I put the 295/60/20's on, I drove the truck using a GPS and found that the odometer and the speedometer are now off by 3.3%. This means that if the speedometer reads 60 MPH, then I am actually traveling 62 MPH (likewise, 30mph is actually 31mph and 90mph is actually 93mph).
This is interesting.... with the stock tires (275/55/20), the speedometer was off 3.3% in the other direction. So when the speedometer read 60 MPH, I was actually traveling 58 MPH. With the 295/55/20's, the speedometer was exact.

The odometer difference is actually a good thing. The odometer will actually read fewer miles then what you really travel

 

I forgot about that PSI part- I gotta remember that factor. I’ve lifted and modified vehicles before, and it’s been awesome. I think the reason I’m overthinking on this specific vehicle is because this Tundra reminds me of my old one so much, I don’t wanna screw it up. I’m going to start with asking my shop about what size(s) would fit best with the setup I’m wanting to run (I was first wanting 3.5 so I got quoted for 3.5). From there I can specify if I want to do or avoid cutting, so that’ll narrow down my options. I’m 100% good with a front bumper spacer, but I’d really have to think about a BMC. I’d also bring up the UCA, so that will factor into sizes too. Once I have all that, then I’ll look into what specific tire I want. Thanks man, I appreciate you playing Tundra Counselor for me haha. I’m sure I’ll make another comment once I’m in the final stages. -Tex

 

Alright Net, you get to hear about this because you’re the only one that’s consistently responded. I eventually ditched the level/lift idea because there’s a high chance I’ll be out of country for a while, so I wasn’t 100% sure $5k+ was worth it for 18 months of use. $3k ish for parts with labor and $2k for bigger tires. That sparked the idea of keeping stock tire size and leveling it. Just not sure how that would look on my truck. 285/55r20 with a 2 inch level, and then eventually go up to 285/60r20. I’ve seen a couple examples that look decent, but their wheels are flush w fender or stick out. Here’s the closes example (to my application). Thoughts?https://www.customwheeloffset.com/w...tundra-dropstars-monster-fabtech-leveling-kit

 

yeah, that is what first did with my truck. I leveled the front with Bilstein 5100's @ 1.57", kept the stock wheels (which are the same size as yours), and went up to 295/55/20 tires:
https://www.tundras.com/threads/netmonkeys-build-thread.11976/

the 285/55/20's will look a little bit smaller than what I had, but you could fit a 285/60/20 without too much trouble.

 

Oh man, you should’ve lied. You just set yourself up to get even more questions .
I wonder why your tires look significantly bigger compared to the truck I linked. I know yours are .5in taller, but I feel like that isn’t much of a difference. Linked truck does have a 2 inch level, slightly taller than yours, but both trucks are stock in the rear. I wonder if the fender flairs give that perception… I told myself I would never do spacers, but I think that would make the truck look significantly better. The only X factor is if it would clear…
Edit: just realized how often I say “I think/feel” and “I wonder”.

 

hah.
well. The ridge grapplers have lots of tread, are very chunky, and have an aggressive side wall. So they look big.
If you add wheel spacers without a lift, then you will probably have more trimming to do.
I wouldn’t put on fender flares unless the wheels had a more negative offset. Closer to zero.

Keep the questions coming. I am happy to help

 

I already have the fender flairs- part of the TSS offroad package. I was dropping something off at one of my employees, and he suggested to jack up the front real quick. I was in a rush so I didn’t take many pictures, but I took some. Stock look: Total of 1.75 inches of lift in the front: I have to say, this picture is the best one, the others don’t look as good at this height. Depending on my distance from the truck it looked better or worse. I’m honestly happy with this. Obviously I want a 3.5/1.5 and big ass tires, but I don’t wanna shit on my CVs. I think if I keep it 1.75-2.00, I’ll be good. The only reason I say spacer is to make it look a little bit more aggressive/ “fuller”. I’m between SpiderTrax and Bora. Leaning towards Bora because they have .5 inch spacer without the new pressed bolts.

 

heh... i did the same thing when I was shopping around for lifts. I put a jack under the cross member and raised the front end to various heights

If you do go with a wheel spacer, then you can get the tire that you want. you can go straight to a 295/60/20. with your wheels (+50mm offset) and a 1/2" spacer, you would be at about +37mm offset. if you go with a 1" spacer, then you would be at about +24mm offset. of course, there will still be some minor trimming to do.