2022 Tundra vs 2022 F-150 opinion?

I checked out a new Tundra when I was buying my wife's 4runner a couple months ago. Interior felt very cheap compared to my Tremor. But it was an SR5, so probably not a fair comparison. Upper trims use nicer materials right?

 

I have a '22 SR5 TRD Off Road. The interior materials feel pretty solid to me. Definitely better than the '21 XLT F150 I drive at work.

 

Yep. That's part of the reason our kids are in private school. Got sick of moving around for better schools.

 

Lol. We get it, you love your 2nd Gen and you’re not a serious 3rd Gen shopper.

you brought up an old ass supplier issue and a few recalls as your argument?

 

As borla mentioned, Canadian mortgages (as a product) are slightly different from US.
First thing, regardless or variable or fixed rate, ppl lock mortgage rates for 5 years only. Banks do offer longer terms, but they are so much higher than 5 years so that no one takes them.
Second, fixed vs variable. It’s a gamble, but on average, historically speaking, variable rate mortgage was always cheaper long term then fixed.
This is the reason I am on variable mortgage.
Next thing to understand, variable mortgage can have fixed payment structure or variable payment structure. The first one remains the same when rates go up (only the ratio changes of principal to interest) and the second one increases every time rates go up. I have the second type of variable mortgage and my monthly payments have been on a roller coaster since March this year…

Now I want to address another BIG elephant in the room. For all other 60% of Canadians who have locked variable mortgage payments, there is a a trigger point past which the monthly payments DO go up!!!. Because initial monthly payment is no longer enough to cover the interest… and it is 3% increase. This is what happened in September, additional increase of 0.75% was 3.25% since they started early this year and it DID trigger monthly payments to go up. This month we are expecting another 0.75% increase (we copy what US does) and all locked variable mortgage payments will keep rising because they passed the point of “no return”…

not to pension that anyone on fixed rate who’s term is due soon probably loosing sleep as we speed… average mortgage in Greater Toronto area (GTA) is around 1M with average house price 1.5M for many years since 2016…

there is a very high chance we will see many house owners defaulting with rates north of 8%.

 

I just test drove a tremor today and it was much tighter and more solid feeling than my tundra. I am at 21K miles already and the rattles from interior and exterior panels have progressively gotten so bad, it feels cheap to drive now. I think I am pretty serious about making the switch soon.

 

Ours will be in private school regardless, Charlotte public schools are notoriously terrible. But we are in a very unique area, honestly it's pretty much filled with starter homes and apartments with the notable exception of the houses on the lake which are obviously much nicer. But we don't have enough higher income types to support a good private school I guess.

 

This all sounds like a very bad system, but maybe just because I don't understand it well/am unfamiliar with it. Almost sounds like a balloon mortgage. Short term, low rate, but you have to pay it off in full at the end so many people just get another similar mortgage.

 

Sooner is better than later, the used car market is softening pretty quickly and the trade in offers across the board are starting to show it.

 

I have had exactly zero issues with mine. But only 4000 miles so far. If you do get it, you can get the extended warranty at cost from Granger in Iowa. I got the 7 year/100k for about $1300 I think, bumper to bumper.

 

Nice truck, I appreciate the info. Seems the F150 has better reviews as well.

 

My Capstone has "premium" leather, but still doesn't feel nearly as nice, fit, or finished as my F-150 Platinum did. The longer I own my Tundra, the more I miss my Platinum.

 

I think Toyota did such a good job on the durability and quality of the last gens that they tricked a bunch of us into buying the new one, only to find out it was redesigned by the same people who made my LG washer and dryer.

 

It has some redeeming qualities. But this forum unfortunately is an echo chamber for Gen 2 owners to reassure themselves Toyota is flawless. Ford isn't without problems, but their F-150 is a better finished truck than the 2022 Tundra's from my experience. Though, everyone one here has had a test drive where the Ford burned down which is so ironic.

 

Please show where I said Toyota is cutting corners.

I said cutting things (removing features that were spec’d in) and parking for chips

 

Test drive both pick the one you like. Really that simple. Me get a gen 2 tundra lol

 

Again that’s not what I said. I know Toyota opted for cheaper plastics, etc. it’s how they kept the price point competitive among increased supplier costs.

I said Toyota isn’t cutting features mid cycle like all the others . Or having to park before shipping for missing components.

 

Granger confirmed all MY23 f150 (regular, lightning Rapto(R) ) will not have it

 

Can you actually corroborate this yet? My source at Ford Performance disagree.

 

The blue oval memo said all f150 and granger sent an email and it said all f150. Even those “specialty” f150 aren’t safe and haven’t been in the past. There’s a few people on the raptor forum with 10/17 build dates that means the window sticker should pop up in a week. The official ford action for the package removal starts 10/7

 

Haha. Now they ran out of Blue Ovals.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/202...Lfv_aIWLw2fhhH8LYxJlVmwWpVTRgrwlwumnPtDNZ3gzk

 

They can charge more for oval delete package 104b

 

I’d rather take the black ones on the BAP

 

Mine are black on the Tremor. Actually a lot of the BAP is from the Tremor I guess. Hood, Ovals and rear bumper with dual exhaust anyway.

 

In March I picked up a ‘21 XLt built in
December that took a couple months to hitch a ride to the lot in the transport crunch and Cancelled my ‘22 entry level Lariat order that I decided I didn’t want to wait for. Wife was harassing me for awhile for being too impatient instead of waiting for my precise special ordered truck.

XLt was missing leather which I’ll get around to adding but had pretty much all the rest of what I wanted except that. Pano moonroof, Nav, 360 degree cameras, etc… Also a couple goodies I like and didn’t expect like bed lighting that later got moved to higher trims i don’t want to pay for. By some glitch I still get notifications the Lariat build hasn’t happened so If I waited right about now they’d likely be forcing me into a 2023 with fewer features at a higher interest rate with my trade losing significant value.

 

I must be in the right place. Our mortgage balance right now is about $68K. FRM of about 2.29% or so.

 

All the feat money only worth the paper they are printed on..

 

Flagship 39k lightning pro is now $52k.

 

that’s a pretty crazy drop in equity in such a short amount of time.

 

Reserved a platinum hybrid tundra today . So there’s that