2022 Tundra vs 2022 F-150 opinion?

Just buy a TRD Pro bed side and you will get 70k. I mean, thats basically all the TRD Pro is anyways

 

I’m looking hard at an older 200 series to replace my wife’s Yukon.

Lexus says the LX 5.7 takes premium and lists it as having more horsepower than the LC 5.7, but guys over at ih8mud are saying they run 87 in the LX with no issues.

A small trailer and putting one of my kids in the third row to spread them all out might be really nice.

 

I am pretty sure it would just run the same power on 87 as the LC does. Lexus does the same thing with the GX460 vs the Tundra 4.6L.

I have towed my 5500 lb trailer with my GX out to Vernal and the Flaming Gorge on separate trips and it gets the job done, but not in a relaxed kind of way. I was having trouble keeping pace with the 18 wheelers on I-80 in Wyoming with good conditions, a head wind and/or high temperature would completely suck.

Stability wise, its better than I thought for a vehicle with a 109" wheelbase. Def wanders more than my F150 but it handled good and had no issues with some decent cross winds doing 65 mph.

I assume the LC/LX would be that and maybe a little bit better since it is slightly wider, longer and heavier. I have heard a bunch of times that the AHC suspension system on the LX makes a big difference towing.

This picture is the top of Wolf Creek Pass here in Utah at 9500 ft. It climbs from 7400' in like 7 miles I think. It pulled the pass fine other than the transmission temp went nuclear.

 

Yeah it makes me wonder…so does that mean I get 383HP in every 5.7 running on 91? Kind of goofy but I get that they’re trying to put some distance between Toyota and Lexus.

Yeah the AHC is a feature, not the bug I thought it was before really looking into it. I had assumed it was an air ride, but it seems to be problem free and highly useful when towing.

I’d definitely add or upgrade an external radiator up front if I had worrying temps on the GX. But if it’s giving you shifting issues, not wanting to shift, etc, the full flush might fix yours too. Local transmission shop that specializes in Toyotas told me those issues are characteristic of high mileage transmissions that towed or for some other reason operated at higher temps and now have a film or varnish on internal surfaces. A good full flush might cure it. But not the shift programming, obviously

 

I hear ya.. maybe I’m not that fussy, I didn’t even have power seats. Made 4 trips from Atlantic Canada to British Columbia. In my Sierra 4 - 16 hour days, 1 way from NS - BC 6000km no real complaints on any trips other then just fatigue.. doesn’t matter what the seat is at that point. Had a couple 1000km days in the tundra so far, and I can tell when I’m not sitting exactly where I’m supposed to on the seat base.. creates pressure points on my boney arse.

 

I’m 6’2” 205lbs, haven’t been called a fat ass that I’m aware of.

 

Somehow the GMC seats work great for my 6’2” 205lbs frame and my wife likes them and she is 5’0” with a smallish build. My wife had to use a seat bulster cushion in my Tundra on long trips, doesn’t need it in my GMC. She was stuck in the middle back seat for 2.5 hours once and was hating life.

 

The pass had a 10% grade so it was about as bad as it can get. Another guy had a similar sized trailer with a newish F-150, he was pulled over with is hood up. If I was doing that pass in my old Tundra I would’ve been watching the trans temp too much to worry about the speed.

 

I did that pass! My top speed at the top was 30mph. I had my Tundra and my camper weighed 7k. GCVWR was 14,300lbs. Thought I blew a tranny at first & then did some math. 10,000’ elevation, 6 miles of 10% grade, duh! I lost 30% HP with elevation. Everyone that passed me at the top must have been Tundra fanboys also, cause they all gave me the number 1 gesture as they passed me
Going down the other side wasn’t much better.

 

Yes i am familiar with the pass, its not a very high speed limit anyways, i wouldnt think 40 would be all that bad. Just surprised it would be floored

just curious about the Tundras towing power. Towing a steep pass is less of a concern to me than pulling into a 30+ mph headwind on a 7% grade somewhere on I-80 tbh.

 

I know on my 2017 2500HD Denali it could all be turned off and would stay off until you physically turn it back on, wouldn't reset after a restart. Same thing with my current Titan XD.

 

I've towed a JK on a 2000lbs trailer up to 10k ft elevation a few times. On i70 in the rocky mountains, it does pin the RPMs to 4-5k to clear it, but it clears. Will see how it does later this year after the supercharger is installed

 

It was a very weird feeling to literally have it floored and still not be going quite 40mph. If I could go faster it probably would have been only about 45 but if I weighed any more my speed probably would’ve been dropping.

One time I was pulling the same trailer with my Tundra to Yellowstone. Was on a somewhat flat two lane highway with a strong head wind, had a hard time holding 50mph. If it was a head wind on a decent grade it could be very slow.

 

Just went through this issue with/ for my kid too. Some dealers still playing games with ‘used’ ‘22 cars showing 3k on odometer charging over msrp. Even on a Hyundai venue! Wound up going brand new veh. Didn’t wanna pay new car prices but definitely didn’t wanna pay the same or more than that for used!

 

Your kids are getting cars that are too new. My first car was a Civic that was 10 years old at the time and I paid for it myself.

 

My first 3 cars were old pieces of crap! I’m a believer in work to earn the privilege, but Even 8 yr old cars in my area with mid-high mileage for their age are only several grand less than new econobox. The used car price bubble is bursting so it’s just a better investment to go new now, trust me it wasn’t my first choice for our budget. But for us the math made more sense this way in the long run.

 

I keep hearing the car price bubble is bursting, lowering, etc. it sure isnt around here.

I had to buy a cargo van yesterday and it was used 2021 with 11K, and went for 62 when MSRP was 46K.

brutal

 

You're not kidding. This is the only used Toyota car within about 200 miles of me that I'd even consider. I'm willing to bet the dealer paid a max of $5k to get it, though.

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/toyota/corolla/edmonton/alberta/5_56137685_20150610101946524/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&showVs=1&orup=1_14_14&pc=T8H 0H2&sprx=250

 

I agree I don’t think it’s hit the street yet, but anecdotaly I see more used cars sitting on lots, so as more people keep buying new instead, more used keep arriving & don’t seem to be moving as fast- only those in urgent need - which I almost was for the kid so took a new arrival off a lot.

 

Here in my area, the 10 year old cars are too expensive, especially compared to a few years ago.

I'm a firm believer in an older used car for beginner driver too, but I just can't pay $10k for a 2010 Civic with 130k miles. That would've been a $5k max vehicle had there not been a pandemic. That's basically double what the car is worth.

As you get closer to newer, the pandemic tax starts to relatively decline. Instead of being 200% of value, we get closer to something like 125% of value.

Anyway, I think things are beginning to turn around. I am seeing much more realistic prices, good cars under $5k are beginning to become more common on CL. I just found a super nice Honda Element in my neighborhood for $6k, AWD and very clean, it'd probably be a great first car.

 

ya, I had no choice, not a lot of selection when you need something for business, it would have cost more to not buy it, sucks the market is like this.

the cargo van market is worse than the car and truck market, wow, you can't find them anywhere if you need some specifics, (high roof, shorter wheelbase, etc)

oh well, Im pretending like that didnt just happen, lol, move on

 

I've been watching vehicle prices on CarGurus for a couple months, particularly Sequoias and LXs. Everything is coming down that I'm looking at. If trends continue, they might even be reasonable in the next 5-6 months. If not, I'll probably just buy by then anyway. I need to replace the Yukon, but it isn't urgent at the moment.

 

Unfortunately it's at a Go Auto dealership, which means it needs to be avoided.

 

Good thing I'm not actually in the market.

 

Yeah, lucky for you.

Just in case anyone is wondering, fuck GoAuto.

 

I'm basically in the mindset of fuck AllAutoDealers. You will never find more wretched hives of scum and villainy.

 

well the 2022 Tundra 14 inch I phone display screen costs more to replace.
Parts guys told me $6000 cdn. plus tax if it gets scratched.
Just saying.

There is a thread on it here and it got me curious.

this makes more sense if looking for a corolla.

FROM $19.5K Cdn.

https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/veh...zBIGDhbujuwRUHWKKLIaAjLcEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

I’ve owned Tundra, Tundra, F150, and now Tundra. The F-150 is an excellent design with wonderful functionality, but their component quality is terrible. You will spend $2,000 a year in parts and labor to keep it on the road.

 

I noticed quite a few of my friends at work who owned one of the big 3, had "weekend hobbies" with their trucks. They were either under the truck or under the hood, just to keep it going for work Monday morning!

 

I wager 100 Canadian loonies - now worth 75 US dollars and dropping - that nobody with a new Ford F150 or Tundra will spend anytime under the hood except to add windshield washer fluid.
They will spend no time under the truck unless they are modding it and watching their mechanic do the work.
The questions that remain - of the Ford and Toyota service departments, who has the fastest internet speed, the best coffee, the best loaner vehicles.
No one is keeping these trucks past warranty.
if your Tundra has a 14 inch screen and is in for service, make sure the guy that welcomes you and does a walk a round when admitting your vehicle takes a picture of the screen, just in case you get the Tundra back and there is a scratch or crack in it. See previous post.