2022 Tundra vs 2022 F-150 opinion?

Well, happy anniversary

 

Hoping no one comes out with anything so the 23 raptor can be it

 

For those interested '22 Tundra earns IIHS Top Safety pick +

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/class-summary/large-pickups

 

2018 CRV begat 2021 Tundra, which begat 2021 F150, which begat 2022 CRV, which begat Fraternal Twins 2022 Tundra and Lightning....which begat .....

Drumroll.......The Money is on 2023 CRV

Its a lot of fun playing with other peoples money 8^0

 

if the 23 pilot gets a real center console then honestly probably take the bigger one.

23 crv still doesn’t have front vent seat options

 

I think you’re correct on the IIHS ratings. Both the Tundra and F150 had identical crash testing ratings. The Tundra just comes standard with headlights that don’t suck.

 

Lightning dealer reached out and has a black raptor with blue recaro package on lot and they want my lightning. Thing is they usually carruy a 20k adm on the raptor. So that means the lightning trade in should be 125k right?

 

You should be able to get them to do a close to straight across deal, I wouldn't expect any cash back. If it's a 37" PP then expect them to lowball the Lightning even more.

 

not a 37 pp. It's just 801, blue interior, tail gate and pano roof. $81.5k msrp. I'd take straight across. I also sent them the specs on the pro. But honestly the pro is loved by all in the family lol. It's just me and my son that want the raptor.

 

Are you Impaul4 over on FRF?

 

Yes I friggin couldn’t get my same s/n

 

If a pinky could engage 4A on the '22 Tundra that would show those Ford guys what's what about 4WD etiquette. Oh wait, '22 Tundra isn't available with 4A no matter how many fingers you have.

I'm looking for something better MPG-wise than this beast '19 but nothing stands out to me right now that can match it for longevity and overall versatility.

 

Passed on the raptor. Blue suede is a no go.

 

Keep your sequioa. It's super nice and capable and I definitely wouldn't trade it for the new one.

and, nothing is going to make up the cost of switching, ie tax, title, reg, loss of value on your trade, in gas savings.......nothing.

 

Another pro/con of Tundra vs F-150:

• Tundra has full screen Android Auto, F-150 does not.
• Tundra remote starts engine shuts off when you open the door, F-150 does not.

 

Android? Peasant.

That remote start shutoff alone was enough of a deal breaker for me to avoid the Tundra.

Is CarPlay at least wireless? It’s ridiculous that the phone has be plugged in on my wife’s 2022 T4R ORP.

 

Thought I heard Toyota doing a flash for the remote start. It’s just software fix

 

car play is wireless and is a lot faster to connect and use than in my f150. Outside CarPlay the UI kinda meh

 

Please god, I hope so… most annoying thing of this truck, other then the clunking tailgate over bumps.. bad enough it’s only 10 min run time, but then you have to start it again even if it hasn’t reached it time limit yet just because you unlocked it or opened the door.. they should make it like every other remote start that you can activate it so you leave it running while you leave the truck for 5-10 mins when it’s -25 and snowing and blowing.

 

Ford will use Android Automotive for 2024 vehicles like GM does for their infotainment, you'll get used to it.

 

I hope they do that before I get mine. I have it in the Tacoma and hate it. It's ridiculous that all other brands engine keeps running when you open the door but for Toyota it's a safety feature.

 

I shopped the Tundra TRD Pro vs the Raptor.

I reserved a Pro; a gamble, yes, but Toyota has been extremely consistent with their vehicle quality and the experience with dealing with Toyota has been much better than my experiences with Ford (I have owned 2 F150s, a Sport Trac, a Mustang Cobra, and a regular Explorer). My Tundra is my third Toyota product (2016 Scion tC, 2018 Tacoma, 2022 Tundra)

fhe one thing that really pushed me away from Ford was when I went to test drive 2-3 year old Raptors. The wear/tear was not good. Yes the motor and suspension was great but the fit/finish on even the new ones really bothered me. I like Toyota because they seem to address the little stuff better. The Fords felt cheap-ish -and won’t hold up long term.

I cede the fact that the new Tundra is a first year of a new generation but I’d still take it. For reference with regards to resale, I traded in (trade-in mind you) my 2018 Tacoma TRD Off-Road and got $35k with 120k miles….I bought it for $38k with just 8 miles brand new in Jul 2018.

One last point: I finance with Toyota Motor Credit. I typically overpay my car note each month. This saved me when Covid hit and I lost all my work contracts. When you overpay, they bank the overpayment towards future payments instead of just adding it straight away to principle and expecting full payment the following month. I basically had 6 months of payments saved up and didn’t have to worry about it until I could get back to work. I’m not sure if Ford Motor credit operates in the same manner nowadays but when I financed through them they didn’t.

 

See I felt like the Tundra felt cheap compared to my Tremor. But I only looked at an SR5.

Can’t speak to the finance as I’m a cash buyer but I would think most of the time extra payments go towards principle. Prepaying is a little silly, invest it instead if it’s not saving you interest.

 

Oh nice. My truck takes less than 10 seconds. Cool they got it down to even less time than that.

 

Did you look at the Tremor? That seems more of a competitor to the TRD Pro than the Raptor.
What are your likes and dislikes about the Tundra?

 

Yeah putting the Pro against the Raptor isn’t a fair fight. Even the Tremor outclassed it in the Truck King test.

 

The wear and tear is the biggest difference I noticed.

I can already see where leather wear will be in my 150 mile lightning.

TFL’s lightning leather is already wrinkling and pilling too. It was how my 21 lariat leather was. It was starting to loosen up and the zest bottom was loose. The durability of the f150 is my only hesitation on the raptor but I’m just reluctantly overlooking it for the raptor.

I can see the cheap components in the TRD but from owning a similarly priced lariat the tundra is a lot more solid and is going to wear a lot better. Day 1 or my f150 I had to use a post it to stop a squeak. My pro has two shortcomings and one is hopefully fixed by the seat jackers and the other is the steering wheel height which I’ll have to live with.

 

i didn’t consider the tremor. I know the Raptor has beefier motor and suspension and the Tundra Pro is mild by comparison. For me it was after I test drove a third used Raptor and the steering wheel leather was rubbing off, it squeaked everywhere, panels were falling off, etc.

I didn’t have any of those issues with my Taco or the Scion. So far the Tundra feels solid.

For me:

Tundra Pros: the resale value and customer service experience cant be argued. I’m sure there are outliers but, as a whole, my experience has been significantly better than Ford. The fit and finish materials (at least on the Tundra Pro seems and feels great. As stated earlier, I don’t feel like the truck is a ticking timebomb for something to fall off or develop a squeak. The BBS wheels look frigging amazing and lots of tech that makes life easier. The ride is smooth and the transmission is seamless. Also, the financing options and ease of payment options and information fit my budget planning great.

I also overpay my vehicles for just such an emergency if I lose work or something comes up. Plus if I sell the vehicle early, it’s still counted towards principle. It was just a lot more flexibility for me.

Tundra cons: it’s simply not a super truck like the Raptor and probably the tremor. The motor feels beefy and is adequate but it’s not going to destroy the desert like the Raptor. The 32”Wildpeaks are okay but not what I would prefer in an off-road-centric truck. I already swapped them out for a set of 35” BFG K02s.

F-150 Raptor pros: the engine and suspension were absolutely bad ass! The thing pulls like Bill Clinton heading to boom-boom hour hour at the local strip club. Lol. It is definitely the best thing to talk about. The looks are aggressive and it definitely looks the part without a bunch of non-functional crap to make it look more than what it is. Resale is higher for Raptors.

F-150 Raptor cons: the original fit/finish is adequate when new but it drops off fast as it ages. By the time it gets to four or five years old it definitely looks weathered and tired. Such has been the case for Fords and GM trucks since the dawn of time. The dealer experience is extremely hit/miss. It’s hard to explain but you can definitely tell the difference between a adore and a Toyota dealership. Resale for lower trims is the same for most trucks but not as high as Toyota.

I acknowledge I’m comparing vehicles that probably aren’t the trims you are wanting but I would imagine the general impressions would carry over to lower trims as well. Toyota will always give you middle of the road stuff versus other auto makers. But I don’t think anyone can argue the general overall reliability and quality is consistently higher. I also acknowledge there will always be issues with any vehicle that is mass-produced. But those outliers aside and looking at the bigger picture, it’s going to depend on what you’re willing or unwilling ti live with.

 

My 2014 F150 is going on 8 and is still in really great shape. The only thing that rattles to my knowledge is the kids car seats. The interior looks great still too, and Ive maybe cleaned/conditioned it 5 times in 8 years. Tye best thing is keeping it in a garage.

Maybe the 13th and 14th gens suck more idk

 

Keep telling yourself "it's just the kids car seats" lol. (kidding)