Best brake upgrade for the 1st gen?

@Jon@Mule Any word on release date of these kits yet?

 

I believe it will be mid-August.

 

@Jon@Mule I'm def interested. Thanks for sharing. I recently completed the GX460 upgrade. It made a big difference. I wish i had done it sooner. With that being said, I'm now adding armor and a four wheel camper and so if the kit can provide better performance then I'm all ears.

 

How's the brake pedal? I've been doing my homework and some people are experiencing the "mushy" pedal.

 

I spoke with Jon and Delon of Power Brake over the weekend at Overland Expo PNW and I'll be getting a set of as well. Got to see all the insane amount of detail and quality that goes into these brake kits. No they are not cheap but I feel it's the type of upgrade that is worth it and you won't regret for safety reasons especially when carrying a camper.

 

No mushy pedal. The pedal feels better then before actually. Just use a quality OEM GX460 caliper and you should be good. Also take the opportunity to upgrade the brake lines as well. I went with crown performance with banjo bolts.

 

I used the same lines and there great

 

I never ran the GX conversion, so I couldn't give you an honest comparison. I can tell you that my canopy, tent, and gear are probably close in weight to the FWC dry maybe even wet and loaded? I have all the confidence in the stopping power. That being said, I wouldn't upgrade until you get the camper and see how it feels with the GX brakes.

 

I have used this company for brake parts. Great Company to deal with.

 

That Mits alloy canopy is SWEET! Sales pitch or not, this is a dream rig.

 

Thank you!

 

Not seeing a kit in the catalog that fits the 1st Gen. Does one of the Lexus kits fit? Other?

 

You will want the kit for the Tundra. I have asked for an update from Powerbrake, and will update the thread once I hear back.

 

Waiting to see what they say. Thanks.

 

Santa delivered a package today. One of the first and one of the few. I'll report back when I get these installed.

 

Really nice setup, more than me or my truck needs. At some point I will make an upgrade to the gx brakes but for the most part, my truck rides around empty and the Corolla brakes are adequate

 

I think for an unmodded daily driver the stock brakes work fine. The GX upgrade would be a great upgrade for most basic builds with a lift, bigger tires, some extra weight. I sprung for the Powerbrake kit because I'll be hauling a camper on it 24/7 so felt I should do spring for the best kit I could get for it. Plus I got it for a small sale before their prices went up in Sept so they were $300 less than the current MSRP.

 

Any updates on the install?

 

Haven't had the chance to install it yet. I'll be sure to update it when I do though.

 

Resurrecting this thread as I'm gonna be putting a Scout Camper YOHO on my 2005 DC Tundra and, while I'll make the final assessment once the camper's on, I'll likely be in the market for more braking power for peace of mind. I've found the Powerbrake kit here for $2675:

 

So forgot my questions! Any recent feedback on the Powerbrake kit, good or bad?

 

I have them on the same truck as yours, but no extra weight on mine. I was never satisfied with the stock brakes, no matter how new or adjusted they were. I wanted brakes that would stop quickly on the freeway when an accident unfolded in front of me without having to ditch my truck. Also was looking for brakes that would not fade when descending long grades. I've driven them coming down Hwy. 26 from Mt. Hood in Oregon, down the I-70 back into Denver, and descending from Medicine Bow on Hwy. 80 in Wyoming. The brakes got ridden a lot and never faded, which was a new experience for me.

Over-engineered and amazingly well-built, and when you need to stop, you can. . .like now.

I've had them on for about six months and only have good things to say about them (except the price).

 

Great to know thanks! Putting beefier leaf springs on the truck has led to the stock shocks nearly topping out, so gonna get new shocks all around and while in there might as well put these bigger brakes in. The slippery slope of upgrades has begun!

 

The original post was a truck that was 5-700# over payload experiencing brake fade. He was quoting weights around 6500-6700#. That dude needed some serious help. My truck weighed in at 4885# at the dump empty. My OEM brakes well adjusted control the weight without fade well. If I was loaded up heavy all the time, I could see a BBK being a good investment.

 

I’m just sharing a potential calipers option, this is an aluminum 2015 Lexus LS600h Nugeon Caliper. (In blue sitting there) It’s quite light and not horribly expensive



these use 40mm pistons (x4) for a fixed calipers. Edit 43mm pistons

 

Is there something wrong with the 15 pound steel Lexus 14WA setup?
What is the alignment on that aluminum caliper compared to the OEM caliper? Does that aluminum caliper have 14mm bolt holes (i suspect it does). Also does the Tundra master cylinder even flow enough fluid to compress those big pistons well enough to give more stopping force than stock? I danced on the slippery slope of the 14WA calipers and bigger rotors, calculating if the Tundra Master cylinder had enough fluid flow to adequately work. Lucky for me they work but with my truck having the biggest Master cylinder that they used on the Tundra i suspect i got a better combo than someone with a 2000 model AC or RC. That is a big caliper and big pistons, you gotta worry about fluid flow, does the Tundra master cylinder even push enough volume of brake fluid to adequately work those big calipers.
When i took my Tundra to the local import auto shop to install my 14WA caliper and rotor setup, (i use them pretty often on dirty jobs) they wouldnt do it for me. The owner (retired Nissan master tech) was going on and on about the piston size and fluid flow and other things and said he wouldnt do it. It works, but he didnt wanna be responsible for it. Looking at that massive caliper makes even me wonder can our master cylinder push enough fluid to kick them, not only the volume of fluid, does it even work at or near the same PSI as that Lexus LS600?

 

It’s been a little while, but I swapped a 1 ton Chevy master on my 92 FJ80 with a fairly simple piece of aluminum plate between it and the stock brake booster.

that was to run the calipers on the SD Dana 60 (05 F250/350) and 05 GMC 14 bolt.

it was probably the easiest part of the brake swap.


I gotta check piston size in tundra to see if the two are ballpark

edit: dug up some pictures:

the LS600h calipers are 43mm piston, apparently the tundras are 45.4mm