Remote Start

Hi all,
New to the forum, and also a new Tundra owner. Just picked up my 2022 Platinum 4x4! Love the truck!

I've read the manuals and searched this forum and the Toyota app for an answer, but have not read anything about one annoying issue I have discovered:

I remote start the truck from the Toyota app and when I open the driver door the engine shuts off. I then get in a re-start the truck less than 5 seconds later. Seems like it should continue to run and when I get in and press the button the engine should continue to run and the instrument cluster should wake up and turn on (like other competitors I have owned over the years).

Anyone know how to change this setting?

Thanks!

 

It's a Toyota "safety" feature. Have it in my 2017 Highlander as well. As of right now, there's not a way to disable it but lots of people have complained about this
There has been talks and rumors that they will disable that in the future

 

Pretty sure "it is what it is". I believe they call it a safety feature, it's going to turn off when the door is opened, no setting change available.

 

yep, by design. You don't want someone to walk up to your car and steal it. I installed aftermarket remote start on my GX460, it does the same thing

 

That's a poor excuse though, every other manufacturer has figured it out. Just because an engine is running doesn't mean that it has to be drive-able or unlocked.

 

this ^

you can't steal the truck just because the engine is running, everyone else has figure it out, as did Viper on my 2016. My engine doesnt shut off either when you open the door.

but if you dont put in the key and touch the brake it will shut off, you also can't steer or shift without the key and the door is locked until I hit the button to open it.

My ram was the same but you had to have the fob since it had push button.

that one dude who brags about being a automotive engineer , etc David, said they were finally doing away with that with an update, but I would have to see it to believe it.

 

Is it so hard to sit down, hit the brake and push the button? The truck cabin won’t warm up/get cold in the instant it takes to do that.

 

Hello friend.

Just because you don't find it to be an inconvenience in your life, doesn't mean others feel the same way. Some people feel differently about things than you do, and that's okay. In the future, if you disagree with someone, and don't have anything constructive to say - just know, it's okay to say nothing.

 

I wasn’t disagreeing, I was simply asking a question. Just because you don’t have an answer doesn’t mean you have to say something.

 

No, it isn't hard to do that - but in some climates the temperature does increase significantly, and rapidly - especially since it shuts off right when you open the door; so now you have the AC or Heater off, with the climate controlled air rapidly escaping through the open door, almost completely negating the whole point of starting it in the first place. Now, if your whole reason for remote starting is to warm up the engine, then this isn't a big deal - but for someone like me that has to load a toddler in the truck, it would make life much easier if the truck would stay on, and then just recognize that I have my key on me before letting me shift into gear just like the remote start on my 2004 Tacoma did.

Your question has been answered.

 

Rodger dodger, why didn’t you simply explain it like that instead of getting all Karen about it?

 

No, but it’s unnecessary starting cycles and makes no sense and I don’t like that operating that way

that said, it’s not enough to make me not buy one by any means

 

I have nobody to quote specifically on the matter but here’s something to think about on modern vehicles. How often do hybrid vehicles stop and start their engines? Even more so, think of the starter on a gas powered golf cart.

The likelihood of a starter failing in our trucks is extremely unlikely. Some studies on modern starters claim that the starter, in most cases, will outlast the engine itself. Even the million mile tundra never had the starter replaced.

 

fair point, but it does nothing but add to those cycles , why?

there is no point

 

I can’t speak for Toyota and their stance on this but it’s been stated it’s for a safety feature. Is it pointless or useless? No clue. Someone would have to spend time researching the rate of theft on remotely started vehicles and that isn’t honestly something that interests me.

Is starting your vehicle after a remote start a slight inconvenience for the owner? Sure. But my 2019 Tacoma did this and I’ve just gotten so used to it that it really doesn’t even cross my mind anymore.

 

You clearly have no idea what a Karen is, and I'm pretty stoked for you because of that.

 

Yawn…night, night Karen.

 

Ya, but in my Nissan I can start the car with the fob. And open the doors all I want. As soon as I jump in car with out fob and step on break car turns off. That is how it should be. You should be able to put your stuff in car as it warms up/ cool down with out having to restart. So silly. Toyota get your act together

 

I would bet if you owned a vehicle that didn’t shut off and you used it, or got used to that , you would prefer it not to shut off, but alas to each thier own.

I prefer it t not shut off like my ram and also my current tundra

 

We do. Wife has a 21 telluride that doesn’t do this. I’m just saying I’ve just gotten used to my truck doing it for last 4 years which I drive primarily. Do I prefer it to stay running? Absolutely. Just saying now that it’s been this way for me for so long on my Toyota trucks that I honestly don’t even think about it anymore.

 

I have it in my 2020 Tacoma and I remember when I learned that this is how it works, it blew my mind. Who in the right mind thought it was a good idea? I have / had other cars that just keeps running until you push the brake without key in or fob not present. This is industry standard. I ended up not using it that often because it's pointless in situations I need it most. Winter morning getting ready to go skiing and bringing jackets, backpacks, coffee mugs I open the doors multiple times. Let's settle that debate - that feature is useless the way it is.

 

Sometimes I just enjoy reading the banter on the forum. All good fun.

So I am in the "this is annoying camp". All my vehicles with OEM starters would keep running if the door opened up. Would shut down if you hit the break or start without the fob.

In any case, sitting down and hitting the button is not a big thing... just don't see the need for it.

As a side note, I chuckle on how manufacturers implement common functionality. Every vehicle I owned with auto power folding mirrors worked the same way ... lock the car.. the mirrors fold in... unlock the car... the mirrors fold out. Easy to check to see if the car is locked by looking at the mirrors.

My 2017 Sierra had a similar auto feature that I could set through the screen. For the life of me, I couldn't get them to work properly. Made a service appt. thinking something is wrong. So I was told that with the auto folding feature enabled .... I had to hold the lock button down on the fob for 3 seconds to get them to fold in. Had to hold the open button down 3 seconds to get them to fold out. I guess GM considered this auto folding mirrors... but at least engine didn't shut off when I opened the door

 

When I had my 3rd Gen Tacoma it was the same way. In the winter months I would start it when I woke up. Just so by the time I'm ready to leave it's already timed out and cuts off. The fact that it cut off after unlocking it or opening the door would piss me off. And I didn't want to get pissed off every morning. Lol

 

Lol. Sounds about right.

 

Why add twice the wear and tear?
You realize cranking is one of the highest wear things that happens to an engine?

 

yeah, what I find silly is they have these things turning off at every traffic light and turning back on to go. Hope these starters are built well.

 

lol you people. toyota has been doing this since the early 2010's with the PTS system. my 2014 4runner does this regardless even with a drone mobile.

not like toyota is going to change stance after 10+years of the same process/procedure.

from what i remember and third party info ...

its not a safety feature. its a key fob rolling code issue. when you remote start it, the ecu and key fob generate a new code. when you unlock the truck, the ecu/key fob generate a new code and since the engine was started with a different code, it shuts down.

thats why you see after market remote starts unlock the vehicle, remote start it, then lock the vehicle after it starts so it fools the ecu/fob into thinking its running with locked doors.

once you grab the handle it generates a new code.

 

Did you know being a dick will not make yours any larger?

 

Only large thing he has is his prostate.