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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Scottyc, Jan 24, 2022.

  1. May 4, 2022 at 10:31 AM
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    Yeah I agree but with this fox suspension , just my roof tent , bedslide and all my camp gear makes the truck sag like mad . In my research it looks unsafe for the front axle to have that much sag in the rear.

    i’m driving from California to Utah with five motorcycles +5 dudes and all our gear so we’re gonna be loaded the hell down.

    I think air bags are prob a good bet at least eh?
     
  2. May 4, 2022 at 10:31 AM
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    @Creatureg I agree with the above, I don't think you need to add anything if all you're towing is 1500lbs. If/when you start to tow heavier weights with heavier tongue weight then go ahead and consider your options at that time.

    Edit: Well, after reading your second post I would say you should add all the weight and see where you are sitting with all your gear (RTT, bed rack, camping gear, cargo, passengers)
     
  3. May 4, 2022 at 10:48 AM
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    Trailer : 1,000lb
    motos : 1500-2,000lb
    Rooftent : 165lb
    Bedslide :200lb
    Diamondback cover :100lb
    Rack :50lb
    Cbi sliders : 200lb
    Passengers :1,000lbs
    Gear :400lb
    Misc :100lb


    Total estimation : 5,000lbs total weight including trailer

    Trailer alone loaded : 2500-3000lbs

    went ahead and ordered the Firestone’s + cradle . At the very least we will be level and my headlights won’t be shining at the sky .
     
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    Not even including the tongue weight of the trailer you're already way over payload, the airbags aren't gonna help that
     
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    suggestions???

    can’t leave me hanging like that …


    So maybe a WDH + airbags would be the ticket ?
     
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    Sorry, only suggestion I can provide is to shed weight. A WDH, airbags, RAS are only gonna help to reduce sag, none will increase payload. Check the door sticker to see exactly what your payload is and then start subtracting things like the tonneau cover, bed rack, RTT, sliders, bed slide and see what you are left with. From that you will need to at least fit the tongue weight of the loaded trailer and you the driver. If you have anything left you could toss in some gear or maybe another passenger. But you'll probably need to take two vehicles because the one Tundra isn't going to be able to carry everything.
     
  7. May 4, 2022 at 11:19 AM
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    You are over payload with just the items in your truck. That's a reality of the math and there is no way to officially increase the payload.

    With that said, if you want to keep your stock springs and level out a load, airbags or a Roadmaster system will both work well. Airbags have more on the fly adjustability and 100% articulation with cradles, RAS likely will give you a slightly more comfortable ride.
     
  8. May 4, 2022 at 11:23 AM
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    Looks like the bed alone can take:

    1,730 pounds

    The 2021 Toyota Tundra towing capacity can reach up to an impressive 10,200 pounds when properly equipped. That's not all though, the new Toyota Tundra payload capacity is just as impressive with a limit of up to 1,730 pounds. When you need a rugged vehicle, choose the 2021 Toyota Tundra.Jul 30, 2021


    So what it referring to when it’s says lax capacity 10,000lbs?

    seems of my total weight towed + what’s in the truck itself and bed was only 5,000 max i would be fine ?
    You would think when you buy a full-size truck like this that cost so much you could do almost anything with it jeez Louise
     
  9. May 4, 2022 at 11:26 AM
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    I'm about to drop a used Air lift kit in the marketplace. The system is great for towing - I just switched up my whole setup.
     
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    That is the rated payload, what the truck is capable of carrying (different from what it is capable of towing), you should double check the sticker as I'm sure its actually lower, added accessories from the factory/dealer will reduce that number. Plus, once you add things like a bed slide, bed rack, tonneau cover, RTT, etc that takes away from your available payload. Then take into account passenger weight, cargo and tongue weight of the trailer and you'll see how you are over the rated payload.

    I believe it's rated to tow 9,200lbs but that is unsupported weight, the killer of the Tundra is the payload, the weight the truck is capable of supporting.
     
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    What was your experience in towing
    Yeah looks like
    Combined weight shouldn’t be over 1250lbs. That seems soo low that’s crazy .

    well if I cut my weight in passengers I should be fine towing that trailer with airbags I would think . I’ll check that article thank you!

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  13. May 4, 2022 at 12:04 PM
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    You're welcome, hope you are able to come up with a solution that works for you.

    You will be close, based on the numbers provided you are at 715lbs without driver, trailer tongue weight, or gear. Just make sure to take the loaded trailer to some scales to get an accurate tongue weight so you know exactly what you are working with.
     

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