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UCA to clear inside of tire

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Florida Man 82, May 1, 2022.

  1. May 1, 2022 at 5:28 PM
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    I'm fixing to put on new, wider tires. They'll probably fit, but with very little clearance between the tire and the UCA. Any suggestions for aftermarket UCAs if my main concern is clearance between the UCA and the inside of the tire? Thanks.
     
  2. May 1, 2022 at 5:31 PM
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    What size tires? Are you lifted? OEM wheels or aftermarket? If aftermarket, whats the offset? A new UCA isn’t necessarily going to give you more clearance. It will give you more adjustment for your alignment.
     
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    I'm not looking for a UCA to help me clear anything, such as the body mount, or wheel well, etc. To reiterate, my concern instead is the tire clearing the UCA itself. Some UCAs have more bulk around the ball joint, thus putting them closer to the inside of the top of the tire. I'm looking for the UCA with the least unnecessary bulk past the joint, between it and the tire.
     
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    I saw in another thread you asked the same question in regards to mounting 295/70r18 Ridge Grapplers on stock TRD wheels. They should fit with your stock UCA, but your going to have to have about a 2” lift in the front. Plenty of stock TRD Pro guys run that tire with no problems.

    I run 295/70R18 Falken Wildpeak AT3 on my stock Pro wheels (same offset as yours) and no problems. I have about a half inch clearance between the tire and UCA.

    I don’t think any aftermarket UCA is going to give you much extra clearance there. Only a skinnier tire or a wheel with positive offset will make a noticeable improvement in that clearance.
     
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    Thanks. They will likely fit, but may be too close to the UCA for my OCD. I have about a 2.25"-2.5" lift (top setting 5100s, CB shim driver side), but the lift is irrelevant to my question. Lift or no lift, if the tire is too wide it will rub the UCA.
     
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    If that small of a gap worries you with a 295 width tire then go with a 285 or 275 width tire or an aftermarket positive wheel.
    Here’s a picture of what mine looks like.

    E7EFC928-599E-44C2-BD58-1FD634767291.jpg
     
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    Are you going to be running your stock rims?

    Finding a UCA that doesn’t have a “bulky” ball joint isn’t the issue you’re trying to solve if you’re looking into running bigger/wider tires.

    Your wheel offset will play a key role in whether or not the wheel is sucked into the wheel well or pushed away from the spindle.
     
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    No, you're wrong. Actually finding a UCA that doesn't have unnecessary bulk is precisely the issue I have. I want to "run" 295s, on stock TRD Off Road wheels, without spacers. This is doable, but put the tire pretty darn close to the UCA. So, to maximize that gap, I want to a UCA that has minimal bulk between the joint itself and the inside of the tire.

    I suspected people would chime in with non-responsive responses, such as "use spacers," get wheels with a lower offset, they'll fit, etc. And I wasn't wrong. . .
     
  10. May 1, 2022 at 6:33 PM
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    Thanks for the pic. That looks awfully close, but I'm seeing picture after picture of people whose UCA is closer than I'd like, but they haven't had a problem. So, that's reassuring.
     
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    That picture is actually a little deceiving because it wasn’t taken on plane with where the UCA would meet the tire (if that makes sense??). I can actually stick my index finger between them.
     
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    I thought that must be the case. Thanks again.
     
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    Those look like Nitto RGs. That's what I'm getting in the 295/70r18. If so, which side do you have facing out? The "wilder" sidewall or the other?
     
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    Did I miss something?? "Any suggestions for aftermarket UCAs if my main concern is clearance between the UCA and the inside of the tire?"
     
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    They’re Falken Wildpeak AT3’s. 295/70r18.
     
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    What I was trying to express there is that I'm not getting UCAs for the purpose of clearing anything other than the UCA itself. So, posts about how this and that UCA will help me clear the body mount, the wheel well, etc, help my alignment, yada, yada, yada, were not responsive to my original post.
     
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    You just confused everyone here....Yada yada...yada..
     
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    Nope, just you, and perhaps your friend mr. beluga.
     
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    You come on here and ask for advice. We are basing our responses to your original post. Yawning now. Goodnight...
     
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    I asked a clear, specific question, which neither you nor mr beluga seemed to grasp, thus leading to your irrelevant posts. Accordingly, I can't empathize with your feeling underappreciated.
     
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    Read post #1. You know, your post. Lol....
    Sorry if you didn't like my response. We thrive on sarcasm here btw....lightyears ahead of you. Actually I can stay up all night and play the sarcasm bs but life is too short. You notice no one seems to want to help you anymore here? Think about it.
     
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    I don't know if it seems that way. Perhaps they don't know the answer, which is fine (it's an unusual question). The fact of the matter is I often see people post a question, then get answers to an entirely different question. It's super irritating. For example, someone might ask what wheels might give them enough clearance from their UCA for their 315s (or whatever), and people chime in saying "get spacers," as if the person hadn't thought of that.

    In this case, I asked about UCAs that offer the most clearance between the UCA and the tire, and was told, among other things, that getting clearance between my tire and my uca wasn't my "issue." No, it was precisely my issue. Don't know the answer to my "issue"? Cool! No problem, don't chime in.
     
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    No need to call me out as I was simply inputting my $.02.

    You’re trying to find clearance between the UCA ball joint and the tire. Yes there is a possibility that if you were to look into uniball UCA (Total Chaos, Camburg, MCM, Icon… to name a few) then you may get that additional clearance you want. If you looked into an SPC or JBA, then that clearance will not be there for you.

    You’re trying to fix the issue of fitting a large tire, into your wheel well, without having to change out your wheels. The reason why we suggest a different wheel offset is due to the fact that the stock TRD offset pulls the wheel extremely close to the spindle and UCA when you start increasing your tire size.

    Go to and look at their Wheel Offset calculator. Then it’ll tell you the estimated measurements you’ll have.

    As I said, wheel offset is what will fix your issue. The UCA plays a role into fitting larger tires by increasing caster; which allows you to push your wheel/tire away from your body mount. But the UCA won’t play a role in your trying to clear your tires from the UCA.

    Don’t be an asshole. We’re all just trying to help you out.
     
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    And even if you find a UCA with that 1/4 inch more of clearance, you’d be good on road. Then when you start articulating your suspension, you’ll start rubbing.
     

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