My comparison 2022 vs my 2021

Hmmm… I suspect it’s natural that you are going to get these type of comparison when there is a drastic change to a car/truck model. I wonder how much of the conversation is simply due to people having difficulty dealing with change? There are similar threads as this on other forums when Chevrolet came out with the new C8 versus the C7, Porsche with the 992 versus the 991, etc. Warning - I definitely fall into the category “resistant to change”.

For me as time goes on the impact of the change softens as I see the vehicle more and more on the road and my opinion begins to evolve. At this time, I like the new 992; however, I haven’t gotten over the new C8 yet. It’s taking longer as I get older!

 

By Platinum, you mean 1794, right?

 

Ah, I think I meant a limited. It was dark blue and had a really nice interior.

He really likes the truck and came over from a Chevy.

Even though he preferred the exterior of the 2.5 gen TRD pro, one look at the interior of my 2017 and he said yeah that's why I waited until this new generation.

The interior and tech of the prior generation is almost embarrassing compared to the competitors and certainly the new truck. Okay.. it is embarrassing haha.

And of course like all 2.5 gen owners, at least for the SR5 and TRD pro, I had to add power seats headlights bed locker etc. Truth be told, the tech available in my 2017 TRD pro was the most advanced of any car I'd ever owned, so I was completely content. When I bought my truck, I was driving a 1997 BMW M3, and a 2006 Jeep Commander. In 2020 I sold the M3 and bought a 20/20 Mustang Bullitt edition. That was my first car with heated and cooled seats and all of the other electronic wizardry. Other than Android auto and some of the hands-free tech, I have all the other garbage disabled.

I understand the frustration that gen 3 owners have with people coming over and crapping on the new truck. This thread popped up in my news feed under the title of comparing the 2021 to 2022 so I think it's fair game to discuss thoughts about them.

I think the new Tundra is a great truck and very comparable to The Big Three offerings. I really hope that it pulls more owners into the fold just like the guy I met yesterday. If I was going to be buying a new truck it would likely be my choice and I would go for a platinum or capstone. As a current owner, there's just not enough in the new truck at this time to convince me to upgrade to the newer model.

I don't think there are many if any gen 3 TRD pros on the road yet. I'm looking forward to seeing a head-to-head comparison between the 2.5 gen and 3.0 gen TRD pro on and off road.

 

I had a 2015 4Runner TRD Pro and at that time our boat and trailer were 5,000 lbs. I bought the tundra (after owning our first boat for a month) because I got it at a good price and wanted better towing. After I had more towing capacity, we looked at upgrading our boat and did. Full size vehicles don’t do well in hilly wooded trails that aren’t wide enough for full sized vehicles where I live. Hence the reason I have a 4th Gen 4Runner now as well as the tundra.

If at any time you can scoop up a Pro at a good price, it’s not a bad move. I’m trading mine for what I paid for it and basically did the same with my 4R TRD Pro. So for the cost of interest and about $1700 I’ve driven two TRD Pros for 60k+ miles over the course of nearly 4 years.

 

Kind of like when new owners absolutely laugh when previous gen owners think their old, stale dinosaurs are "king of the roads". It's more than comical.

 

In fairness, the Highlander is built on a TNGA-K platform while the new Tundra is built on a TNGA-F. Same concept yes, but totally different platforms.

 

This is an underappreciated comment, yet pretty important, I think. When I bought my truck, I had only 2004 F150 and a 2013 F150 prior to it. My 2004 was very simple; my 2013 had plenty of tech for vehicles at the time. The issue wasn’t the amount of tech…it was how well it worked, and how well it was supported when it malfunctioned. I consistently had issues with the media system, trailer brake, etc.

Granted, my 2020 tundra was not exactly leagues ahead of my 2013 F150…. But it has plenty more tech than my 2013 did, and more importantly, the vast majority of it was very well implemented and has never given me any issues and simply works. THAT is why I bought my 2020.

I am not at all opposed to buying a 2022. I *WANT* to. But when your current vehicle is paid off, and you have to incur a $10-$15K debt to own a vehicle that may have some growing pains, you find yourself thinking “I think I’m good with where I’m at right now.”

 

I'm thinking it was not apples to apples because when I test drive a new vehicle I'm definitely hitting the skinny pedal. Now if the OP hit the skinny pedal on his personal truck like he did on the test drive at the exact same time and places during that loop, then fine it's apples to apples. But I'm thinking he probably was into the throttle more on the test drive. I know I would be.

 

I don't have any wastegate issues on my ride...

 

Its the first test where someone tried to duplicate a run on purpose that I have read.
Well I got 17.65L/ 100km on my test drive. And I consciously drove it like I normally would.
No one is buying "any" Tundra '22 or older to drive it like a granny for mileage.

as of today for information

 

Hand calculated?

 

IDK - best to ask the thread participants directly.

https://www.tundras.com/threads/pol...se-post-comments-on-real-world-mileage.99876/

From what I have seen on reviews the '22 Tundra computer display is not too far off from manual calculations at the pump.

 

Hit 19mpg at 30mile mark 19.5 @50mile mark driving 90% @65-75mph

 

Who needs a V6 eh!!! V8

 

Now show us the picture of the sail you deployed , HA!

 

I'm coming from a '19 TRD off road limited that was totaled by a pine tree. Really almost had no option that going with a '22 (same model). After a week, I noticed some of the very same you experienced. It's definitely a smoother ride and WAY quieter. Almost feels luxury with the heated steering, lane assist, multiple camera angles, improved sound system (base system), remote start (from phone), power folding mirrors and a few others.

Things I don't like are also the typical:
- Back seat leg room is a HUGE negative. Had I actually had a chance to drive a double cab I might have gone with the Crew Max, but I need the 6.7' bed because of some of my tools and skis.
- No step on bumper for easier access into the bed. I'll probably just get the step whether it's powered or not.
- Would have preferred leather seats, but the A/C seats is a nice feature.

Other notables:
- Not sure why people are concerned with the larger turning radius. I haven't noticed it. The multiple camera angles makes parking easier and overall I'd take it.
- People complaining about headroom. I find it's actually MORE. Maybe it's not the case with the Crew Max.
- Infotainment takes some annoying setting up and getting used to. But once you link your fob, it's fine. The 14" screen seems obnoxious at first, but the navigation is a huge improvement. I never even used my previous one and used my phone. Not anymore.
- Still getting used to all the buttons/controls. Miss my old ones, but I think it's something that will just take a little time.
- Rims look bigger and way nicer. The matte black look great!
- Power-wise, it seems about the same, but starting from a complete stop, you can feel the lack of torque until the turbos kick in.
- Haven't noticed any fuel savings, but is likely affected by break-in period, and lack of tonneau cover.

 

Believe what you want sweetheart, I have no reason to lie about it!!

 

Nice review, OP. You could address the 2021 ride with shocks, and the noise with some insulation. Probably not a huge investment that might be worth it for you.

 

Who says the grille's have gotten bigger? Ya'll just imagining things.

 

I have had 3 2nd Gen TSS models (2011, 2014, 2017), & 1 TRD Sport (2019) all 4WD and I can say the fuel economy sucked. I drive 50K+ miles a year in these things and none have got close to 18mpg. On a rare occasion 17.5. Now the TSS were rough as hell compared to the TRD Sport but I do note their differences. The TRD Sport was by far the most fun and still capable for my job.

In the three weeks I have had my 2022 Platinum 4WD I have noticed the difference in the ride (in all modes), and I use all modes effectively for each traveling situation. I have 275/60/R20 BFG KO2s and get anywhere from 18-21.5 MPG on highway. I do notice the difference in weight of the 2022 vs. the earlier models but that was by design for better MPG but in Texas when the wind is gusting 50 mph it is hard to get to that 22 mpg that is EPA standard. 5.7 vs. 3.5 Twins.....I would take the twins any day and blow your damned doors off. I'm a go hard or go home driver...the faster the better and that's what Turbos are made for.

The interior is BY FAR better than the earlier models, and its about time Toyota catches up to other GM products in that category as well as technology capability on the inside. From the leather, to the heated and cooled seats (front and rear), to the pano sunroof, to even the "mood" lighting in the inside that matches the blue inlay stitching of my interior. 100% better than the earlier models.

For the bugs I've seen the servicing dealer for two of those and if you aren't buying the extended warranty you are doing yourself no favors.
1. Badging lifting - I fault the idiot who put them on to begin with for not pressing completely into place with an amount of force needed. (again warranty replacing and no cost to me)
2. Known issue with the mirror camera assembly. Microburst from a passing 18 wheeler popped my passenger mirror camera off and away it went on the highway. (replacing both cameras and mirror assemblies)

Again I have had mine 3 weeks and 3000 miles. I driven this truck hard in 3 weeks. It has seen off road, easy pavement, and caliche back roads. I love driving this truck compared to my others.

 

Beautiful 60 man. Once had a chance to buy an '85 for $8K in that same blue. Still haunts me that I didn't.

 

Unsure of the noise difference between 2018 and 2021, but my 2018 is pretty damn quiet; even with the Wildpeak AT3s.

Yes, what was Toyota thinking with all those different materials???

 

No doors are being blown off here. lol


The V6TT peaks sooner at 2400 rpm. V8 peaks at 3600 rpm. Here are some links for you:

BoostAddict - Underwhelming? 2022 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro test - 0-60, curb weight, 1/4 mile, etc.

"What about the 437 horsepower and 583 lb-ft of torque hybrid drivetrain that includes a twin turbo 3.5 liter V6? Well, it results in 0-60 of 5.7 seconds and a 1/4 mile of 14.5 @ 92 miles per hour."

The Quickest Pickup Trucks MotorTrend Has Ever Tested

"The first model year of the second-generation Tundra just beats the Ram, the F-150, and all the newer Tundras we've tested (with the exception of one, stay tuned). The Toyota's 381-hp, 401-lb-ft 5.7-liter V-8, backed by a six-speed automatic, propelled the Tundra to 60 mph in 6 seconds flat and resulted in a 14.7-second quarter mile at 93.9 mph."

Video: 2022 Toyota Tundra - I Get These Real-World 0-60 MPH and Road Trip MPG Numbers - The Fast Lane Truck (tfltruck.com)

"The non-hybrid 3.5-liter TT V6 is rated at 389 horsepower and 479 lb-ft of torque. I did two 0-60 MPH acceleration runs at an elevation of around 1,500 feet above sea level. My best acceleration was 7.02 seconds, according to the SoloDL GPS device."

And I'm not sure catching up with GM is a good thing...The new Tundra looks like a GM now and NOT a Toyota. Ugly imho

 

How many beaver pelts do you want in trade for that Landcruiser?

 

Let me put it in Sport S+ and we shall see. HA!

 

Not just truck buyers- houses, boats, clothes, toasters. Looks are way up there in a purchasing decision whether we fickle humans like to admit it or not Signed, the guy who bought a Skidoo Expedition instead of a Yamaha VK because it had nicer body panels and the colour matched my truck lol.