Turbo issue

Fake news.

 

geez that one only has 57 miles on it.

I would tell the dealer, dude just take this POS back, no thanks.

try again in 2023.

its disappointing toyota is still selling trucks that are failing, this tells me they cant and havent isolated it yet and are moving forward anyway with the bullshit its only a few trucks

 

Is there any point where the truck can be trusted? I mean, a ton of us here own 22s. Are any of you avoiding long drives/trips? And if so, how many miles would make you comfortable that your truck won't develop the issue? I love the truck but hate wondering if it's just gonna crap out randomly one day. Crazy they haven't said anything official yet.

 

Im waiting to get a full month of clear builds. like for several months we dont see a march build failure. or if we see march build failure , then wait for an April build no failure.

I think if there is a build month that doesnt have any failures for several months after that build month, we should be clear of this.

only problem, is if they keep failing then its a massive potential problem and toyota built a shit box, and its time to buy something else. Let hope its not that though but we are not clear of that yet.

 

Do we know the extent of the February failures? I assume the "2/22" builds are "02/2022" meaning many or all could have been built early in the month as opposed to later in the month? Is there a way to see what the actual build date is (to the day)?

 

simply put, too many to trust a feb build for me for 65K+ platinum I would get.

with everything Im seeing for QC problems, which first year, blah blah, is way too much for toyota, Ive owned several first year Toyotas. But right now Im really leaning to waiting until the 2023 tundra and/or looking at the GMC refresh this summer

 

I'm not attacking anyone who has had an issue with a 22 Tundra and owns one. I empathize with them and remain hopeful it does not happen with my Tundra and also Toyota will repair and eliminate the Root Cause.

 

Agreed, but doesn’t mean they fixed the part either…

 

Agreed, but doesn’t mean they fixed the part either…

 

Right, that's where the complicated part would come in. EPA making everything worse circa 1970

 

4,650 miles...starting to wonder if its electronic related and not even anything wrong with the actuators at all.

 

yikes, cutting off like that while merging can be a o shit situation for sure.

come on toyota, get this shit figured out and let everyone know what's going on here.

 

Toyota is catching up to its competitors in more than 1 way for sure!

 

ya they are at the moment.

I like the new tundra and the new GMC, Im thinking to myself do I want lifter problems or turbo problems, LOL.

 

I'd choose turbo issues.

 

lol, ya Im leaning that way but for now Im choosing a 2016 5.7 V8 while I watch how they address all this stuff.

honestly, Im almost more concerned with the wind noise window sealing problems, that would drive my phuckin nuts to have wind noise or rear window rattling.

 

I’m sure Toyota will find the problem and fix it… But for now I’ll pass. The GM stuff seems to never be resolved!

 

That's so true. I use to have a Silverado that had an lift issue and piston oil ring carbon issue on cylinder #7. I dumped that heep before the warranty was up.

 

Unfortunately our Tahoe's #7 has the highest misfire counts out of all 8 cylinders in mode 6

 

That's how mine was. The check engine light came on with around 40k on the truck. Scanned it and found misfire code for #7. Bought it back to the dealer and they replaced number #7 spark plug which was oil coated and did the TSBs related to it. The problem happened again about a year later and a oil pan leak and lifter noise on start up. More TSBs done and I bailed after talking to another tech that motor replacement would probably be in my future because of carbon build up that would cause lifter contamination and piston seizer.

 

Been following mode 6 counts since we bought it at 35k and we now have about 70k.

OCI every 4500-5000 with seafoam via crankcase and BG crankcase every 10 or so.

 

Unfortunately you're probably just delaying the inevitable. I got nervous an bailed.

 

Y'all, I deal with the exact same dang thing with the 5.3L in my wife's 2012 Yukon. We just passed 150k miles. The telltale sign is that the engine starts to idle a little rough and loses a bit of power. That means we're about to misfire in the next 500 miles or so. This is the routine I have settled into:

1. Pull all 8 spark plugs (because why not do them all at once?)
2. Shoot liberal amount of AC Delco Upper Engine cleaner into the combustion chamber through the spark plug holes.
3. Let cleaner work for 2 hours. Check spark plug gaps while waiting.
4. Inspect and replace plugs (I generally put a new one in #7; the others are fine for a few rounds of this procedure)

Rinse and repeat in about 8-12k miles when it starts idling rough again.

The thing is, I'll take this issue over what brand new GMs are dealing with. My wife is a Suburban girl, but I am NOT replacing this one with another GM product.

 

You guys are talking about a vehicle with a chronic problem. and accepting it. 8^0
For a brief moment of weakness, I bought a GMC Yukon in the 90's. Bought it for the space.
I am sure that 350 would have been really reliable, you still see many around, but it felt like I was driving a hearse.
Lasted 3 months. My shortest time I ever owned a vehicle.

So what is the reliability watershed moment for this Tundra for you guys.
Is it if a past owner with a Turbo problem - gets a repeat ?
or so many months go by without any incidents being reported in this internet age?
Just asking.

 

This is half the reason I picked the absolute most dead nuts reliable truck out there. I don't want two vehicles that regularly have issues.
I hate fixing that stupid Yukon. Hate it. But I love my wife more, so she gets to drive what she wants.

I'm not really looking to make a decision on the 3rd gen Tundra for a long time. If the weird slowness with which Toyota approaches these relatively few issues is due to supply chain issues (which I think it is), if Toyota straightens out these issues as quickly as possible (which I think they will), and if the 3rd gen Tundra goes to the front of the pack for long-term reliability vs the other current offerings (which I think it will), then I'll strongly consider it for my next vehicle purchase. But at this point, I only have 25k miles on my '21 and zero issues. It'll be a while. I enjoy not having to fix things and not having any weird glitches that send me back to the dealer. I don't remember the names of the sales manager or anyone else at the dealership. I said goodbye when I bought this truck, and I meant it. Best chance of never having to return within warranty is a big deal to me.

 

They are not going to bring back the 2nd gen so if someone needs a new truck they don’t really have an option.

 

Ironically the only reason we own the Tahoe (still) is my wife as well.

I already did plugs at 50k (cooler heat range as well).
I do ATF pan fluid swaps every 10/15 (have the pill flipped).
The 2015+ idle quality is trash from the get go, idle speed set point to low, diablo tune to bump it up.

Never buying another GM, ever.

Trying to talk her into trading for a Sequoia.

 

There are tons of low mile 2nd gens out there. I’d still rather buy a proven, far more reliable vehicle even if it has 10k-50k miles on it already. It's not like a 1st gen Ecoboost where the turbos are mounted to the exhaust manifolds just waiting to snap a bolt and give you that telltale exhaust leak tick. Or a 2nd gen EB with the cam phaser or 10 speed issues.

Buying a used domestic with X miles just means you're X miles closer to a repair.

Buying a used 2nd gen Tundra with X miles just means you're X miles closer to 500k or even beyond.

Yeah, I think ours idles too low to begin with as well. My cyl 7 plug is fouled every 8-12k miles. It used to foul up quicker than that, but I put a Range AFM disabler into the OBD port, and now it lasts a bit longer. Isn't it amazing how much more poorly designed the GM is? I have to loosen exhaust hangers and ratchet strap the pipe out of the way to drop the trans pan on our Yukon. Unreal.

I'd take a 5.7L Sequoia at this point. That would put me at two 5.7L v8 vehicles, haha.

 

I'd put a deposit down for a 2023 Sequoia. By the time she's convinced to trade the Tahoe or GM wants to recall it for the eleventeenth time, you'll have secured one for yourself. Dealerships are being allocated very few 2023 Sequoias.

 

Have you heard GMs arguements to getting class actions and lawsuits closed? "Warranty is there to cover part and manufacturing defects, not design flaws". Cant make this shit up man.

Our plug 7. Curious how the cooler plug will look.

Also swapped in a 174 katech as their cooling temps and cooling strategy sucks. Probably going to remove some of the grill shutter vanes (if not the whole assembly) during summer use.