Turbo issue

I hope you’re right.

We do know Toyota isn’t handling this very well.

 

LOL... Who is this "we" you speak of? Certainly not me. We really don't know enough about this yet to judge.

 

Just hope they do better on the waste gate they put in the new Tacoma turbo 4 cylinder that they are gonna put in the 4th gen

 

I hope it gets a robust turbo 4 with the 10-speed trans and not just an update to the current lame setup. Tacoma has always managed to sell plenty based on rep but that isn't gonna be enough anymore what with the 3rd gens. They lost at least one customer in me with that... but then I didn't really NEED a new truck then. I wanted one to get some of the more modern tech, but I was unwilling to accept the powertrain compromises. I probably would have accepted them if I had needed a vehicle then, however, before buying another Chevy or whatever.

 

My dealership does 20/200…. 20 year 200k warranty free …. Good to go!

 

Oh I’ll bet Toyota and their turbo supplier have been having a very uncomfortable come to Jesus meeting the past week or two. One would think they’ll sort it out.

Just wish Toyota would prioritize getting good turbos to customers with broken Tundras instead of building a few extra new ones.

 

Maybe they don't have faith in the replacements.

 

Sounds like the dealers aren’t talking to right people in corporate. I don’t have a lot of confidence in dealership parts departments.

 

This one’s hard for me to believe, and truth be told, I actually believe my salesperson, but he checked once more with his service manager and was told that there is no “bulletin” sent to the dealers from Toyota regarding the waste gate issue.
This is a large dealer as well in Naples, FL.

 

Two Corporate entities we are dealing with. Toyota North America with the parent company in Japan. Lot's of legalize here with this statement. Technically, we purchase the vehicle from Toyota N/A so this is who we deal with on warranty claims. Most likely majority of design and tech work completed in Japan. Just my thoughts on this.

 

Been watching this issue from afar as I am interested in a 2022 Platinum. One thing that I find interesting/disconcerting about this is that Tim at Pickup Truck Plus had a relatively benign lock issue and was on the phone with Toyota US HQ who then sent a few engineers to Nebraska to check this out (and I suppose I recognize this is because he has visibility / audience). Meanwhile, there are more than a few with the waste gate issue seemingly on their own paying for a truck they can’t drive, maybe have a loaner or not, and parts that might be coming. I hope CD - and others - are right that this is isolated and/or Toyota is working to make this right.

 

No bulletin on my end out here. I have full access to TIS.

 

Can we get those lying techs on here so our badass techs can call them out?

 

There are a bunch of US guys working on this too though. I read Sweers took a bunch of engineers with him to work in Japan during the early development of this truck. I guess I want to know why the dealer aren’t pushing to pull parts from the turbo factory.

Did they replace any parts on his truck though? Whatever the issue was could have been some tolerance issue that can be measured and corrected fairly quickly. I feel that diagnosing a turbo issue is more difficult.

 

To me, it was less the diagnosis (they will no doubt figure out the turbo issue) but more the extent/appearance of a fulsome and immediate response. I am inclined to believe they are working hard behind the scene, but judging by what some others on this forum and FB are saying, Toyota is having a hard time even publicly acknowledging this as an issue. As a prospective buyer, I’d certainly appreciate a “hey, we understand this is happening and we are examining the extent of the issue and potentially impacted purchasers” over silence.

 

Don’t forget the 5.7 had a small number of camshaft related issues when it first came out. Things were handled the same as today. Just with less social media in 2007

 

I don’t follow? Can’t imagine they would knowingly continue installing suspect parts.

 

Check out the 22+ Tundra FB page. Just a handful of posts on this 2 weeks back. Different story now. Multiple New posts since then mention the following:
1. New trucks CEL light came on and it’s been at the dealership for days waiting for a diagnosis.
2. New trucks with CEL coming on and owner asking about how to clear it because it has to be a mistake.
3. Others who’s promised delivery date on their new truck has long passed and dealer is telling them it’s still in Texas on a “QC Hold” and asking what that means.
4. Claims that factory has gone to half shifts, but also reading this could be COVID related.

 

engineers have flown out to look at the waste gate issue too. It’s just more complicated a fix. Seems to me the numbers must be around a hundred at least trucks with issues but with verity of check engine light issues I’m not so sure it’s mechanical. Time will tell. If it was more wide spread I think we would have heard more from Toyota.

 

So my salesman has informed me that his mid month allocation did not have any Tundras on his list. Not sure if this is regional or national.

 

@xc_tc
are you a mechanic or engineer ?
Can you or anybody explain to me why they, Toyota, would put a series of parts that make up the turbo "system", in plain view like that.
Easy access to get to them, means the elements have easy access to them too.
Road salt spray, water, ice, snow, grit,
Pressurized car wash spray - everyone spends extra time with that hose in the wheel well.
Stones get flung out of the tire treads when on the road, from being on gravel trails.
You can hear them bang around as they exit.
Well now they have a path into the engine area?
Are these parts impervious to the elements ?

 

The whole underside of the engine compartment is open too you know… also that’s where the turbo is because that’s where the exhaust is… this part still sits pretty high and on the other side of the frame rail. The moving parts of the actuator are harder to see and blocked by the frame. F150 is like this too (see right side of the image for turbo). It’s been like this in trucks for many, many years.

 

With the way Toyota has handled the camshaft tower situation with the 5.7s over the years, is it any surprise how they are handling this issue? I really feel for those that are having to make a payment while the truck sits in the shop. Keeping an eye on this and I hope (and feel) that Toyota will sort out the issue and the Tundra will again/still be known as a highly reliable truck. I really like the new gen as it addresses all of my quibbles about my 2017 SR5 CM. I'd love to pick one up when the car market settles down again.

 

Read several other mentions of this and many others with their order on “QC Hold”. Pressed my dealer on exactly how long to order one and get it delivered. That was 4 days and a follow up email ago.

Nothing to see here..

 

Well they never fixed that issue so I hope they this Wastegate issue for the 3rd gen guys they actually fix. But I'm with you would be terrible to have such a new truck sitting at a dealer without a solution or parts to fix it

 

Any 2022 purchasing additional extended warranty because of the wastegate issue?
Do you think Toyota would cover this issue longer than the 3 year/36 month?

Expecting delivery this week and just contemplating if I should purchase.
Anyone know the cost of extended warranty?

 

The 6 year/100k miles warranty on my 2021 was about $1,100 for reference. We also purchased this warranty for my wife's 2014 4runner and it saved us thousands on a leaky trans seal repair. I'm all for the extended warranty for the peace of mind.

 

Update - Extended Warranty $3,735 10 years 100K which includes Tire/Wheel coverage.

Truck is on the Delivery but now they dont no location. The delivery truck came to dealership this weekend but my truck was not on trailer. Ugh

 

Seeing these left and right on FB and Reddit. Appears problem trucks are still leaving lots and Techs are yet to be able to quickly diagnose.

 

Clearing a CEL and returning the vehicle to owner, freaking hacks