Toyomafia - The Clubhouse. 151.880

only a few times…
I mean, I’m not hardened yet.

 

Catching up, and got a little disappointed. Everyone on this thread in proper form, and not a single twss...


tsk.

 

Texas has too many copperheads - plus we have rat snakes that directly compete for their prey - - the only good a copperhead provides. Rat snakes won't kill a dog or a horse, so the copperheads don't get any love here. One certainly does not get arrested for dispatching one of them, unless city limits and firearms are part of the process.

 

I'm ashamed, please accept my apologies..

 

[satisfied sigh] much more comfortable now... Thank you.

 

Prolly require a new PCB, but I'm wondering just now who might have the skills to program this to light up with the TM logo...

Tundra Ultimate Dome Light Dual Color – MESO CUSTOMS LLC

 

Danger Noodles would be a helluva band name.

 

They'd have to cover RWH's Snake Farm.

 

Chicks digg venomous reptiles.

 

@Squatting Pigeon any thoughts?

 

Florida

 

@Occidentalis is a snake wrangler or something, I'm sure he can help you out.

 

The human soul can't be found within a single cell.
It's like how the essence of a painting can't be seen in a single brush stroke.
Our drive to force our will upon the world is a shackle, as no thought is truly free.

Freedom can only exist in a state of chaos, chaos breeds in pits of conflict.
Searching for slaves under the whip of infallibility, we enter this room.
Within these walls a child that never was, is taken as faceless beings reimagine the future.

The birth of a giant, with a frozen heart.

 

https://youtu.be/mLMCsFjawNU

 

WINNER! I was wondering if anyone would catch the reference.

Such a solid band.

 

Way, way too much profundity!
Although it has always been a marvel to me!
(Rhyme)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQFEY9RIRJA

 

Not all of them

 

Sent this last night but fell asleep soon after

 

I know, right! How dare her ask a loaded question like that in this clubhouse.

 

I'm curious how 'ballin' the dog' worked out for the gang? Sounds like you missed out on quite the party.

 

For this reason, I always caught every bullsnake, kingsnake, and gopher snake I encountered and brought it home to release around the house. Where we lived in AZ, rattlesnake’s were pretty common. I don’t believe that they will fight (unless in captivity) but they do compete for the same food. So I always figured if something else was reducing the mice and rat populations there might be less rattlesnakes in the neighborhood.

 

I can! I missed some of this conversation but I have a number of animals that would make great pets. Ball pythons, Mexican black kingsnakes are what I'd love to send to a new home. I acquired a group of 25+ snakes from an artist who was using them as temporary inspiration and I have a few that I haven't rehomed yet.

Venomous snakes serve important functions in ecosystems. Even if you have no interest in the native wildlife around you, removing them, for example in Connecticut, has removed the top down control of mice and associated ticks, allowing for Lyme disease to run rampant. Copperhead venom has compounds in it that were actively formulated into medications for human health.

Since it's a relatively common question, this is what I usually tell people about taking snakes from the wild:

Please leave wild animals in the wild. This includes not purchasing common species collected from the wild and sold cheaply in pet stores or through online retailers, like *Thamnophis* Ribbon and Gartersnakes, *Opheodrys* Greensnakes, *Xenopeltis* Sunbeam Snakes and *Dasypeltis* Egg-Eating Snakes. Brownsnakes *Storeria* found around the home do okay in urban environments and don't need 'rescue'; the species typically fails to thrive in captivity and should be left in the wild. Reptiles are kept as pets or specimens by many people but captive bred animals have much better chances of survival, as they are free from parasite loads, didn't endure the stress of collection and shipment, and tend to be species that do better in captivity. Taking an animal out of the wild is not ecologically different than killing it, and most states protect non-game native species - meaning collecting it probably broke the law. Source captive bred pets and be wary of people selling offspring dropped by stressed wild-caught females collected near full term as 'captive bred'.

High-throughput reptile traders are collecting snakes from places like Florida with lax wildlife laws with little regard to the status of fungal or other infections, spreading them into the pet trade.{backwater reptiles et AL) In the other direction, taking an animal from the wild, however briefly, exposes it to domestic pathogens during a stressful time. Placing a wild animal in contact with caging or equipment that hasn't been sterilized and/or feeding it food from the pet trade are vector activities that can spread captive pathogens into wild populations. Snake populations are undergoing heavy decline already due to habitat loss, and [rapidly emerging](https://esajournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdfdirect/10.1002/ecs2.3153) pathogens [are being documented](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ece3.3557) in wild snakes that were introduced by snakes from the pet trade.

If you insist on keeping a wild pet, it is your duty to plan and provide the correct veterinary care, which often is two rounds of a pair of the 'deworming' medications Panacur and Flagyl and injections of supportive antibiotics. This will cost more than enough to offset the cheap price tag on the wild caught animal at the pet store or reptile show and increases chances of survival past about 8 months, but does not offset removing the animal from the wild.

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The king snakes eat rattlers. They are always welcome!
https://youtu.be/I8QNoOQDEJU

 

@SnowyTundra is looking for a blue garter

 

I've seen blue garters available captive bred recently so that's good news at least. I don't really follow captive sales but Facebook groups, fauna classifieds are good places to watch.