2022 Tundra vs 2022 F-150 opinion?

I think I read that ford had a 5% increase in warranty claim payouts this year. If you figure on how many vehicles Ford produces that is huge and a big chunk out of their profit margins. Many people just buy into Fords mass marketing hype for trucks and never even bother to compare. I would also say a large majority of truck owners probably do not notice nor care about quality issues unless it is something major. Rattles, poor fit and finish on the interior or orange peel paint are probably no big deal to many truck buyers.

 

I believe it’s almost 2 ft worse. New one 48.9 and the 22 was 46 right? I

 

Shit I see orange peel on every new car today. I can let some things go but one thing I can't is rattles, especially interior. You can only turn the music up so much........especially if it's the JBl *ba dum tiss*

 

Yep, I have to agree. Too many of my friends from work have spent a lot of their free time at the dealers service ares or under the hood or laying on the ground under their Fords.

It feels small inside compared to 2021 because interior dimensions are reduced for '22.

According to the diagrams shown on this site a couple weeks ago, the '22 interior dimensions are shorter and narrower by inches. Do a search.

 

Oh I see, in other words the 2.5 continues to be a better option

 

We're all as different as our uses for the trucks. For me and my uses, the '22 has no appeal at all. People who want the latest equipment and still want the Tundra's reputation will choose accordingly.....as will I.

 

Enjoy your new Ford !!

Being a first time Tundra owner it’s going to be a very hard decision when it’s time to switch out the one I have.

I am not loyal to any brand and like to try something new…..but the tundra even though it’s lagging behind in areas I have never owned a truck that after 6 years it drives like the day I brought her home.
No unexpected trips to the dealer witch to me is impressive …..my previous trucks haven’t come close to this.
I normally switch out every 3/4 years but as long as this tundra keeps going like it is it’s going to be hard to part with.

Ford in my opinion probably won’t give this but still a very nice truck in many other ways !!!

 

Yep, I'm with ya.' My friends at work would look at me like my hair's on fire, when I'd tell 'em I haven't had my 2010 back to the dealer since new!

 

In some ways. For me, I’ll stick with my ‘21. The ‘22 is objectively better in many ways (fuel economy, towing, power and where it peaks in the RPM band), but the dead nuts reliability of an ancient platform is the biggest appeal for me. I’ve also said many times I like how my ‘21 feels smaller than it is due to the short nose and smaller turning radius. My truck is also more than powerful for my needs. At this point I’m happy to pay the yearly fuel premium to keep driving it for many, many miles.

Speaking of mileage, I’ll hit 20k in a couple days.

 

That can’t be ft can it? That would mean you need 4 lanes to do a u turn? My current truck can do it with 2 lanes.

 

IMO we should make urban roads safe for wee little electric cars and make that the defacto standard. The savings on congestion, parking, pollution, fuel, etc would be immense. Save your trucks (with an ICE) for towing and hauling loads, which are usually long trips.

 

IMHO, F150 is a better truck under warranty, confusing option packages but overall the best Truck out there. However, repair rate and trade-in value will make you wish you had a Tundra. Crazy how much Tundra's hold their value and there is a reason for that, RELIABILITY. Again, as a 2020 F150 owner's opinion.

 

What exactly makes the F150 a better truck, though? (Honest question, not trying to be antagonistic or anything.)

 

I think the F150 is better at "truck" things, however the design is very uninspiring and of course there is the reliability concern. With that said, I am a big fan on the pro power onboard generator.

 

Interesting view point. I just ordered a 22 F-150 Tremor this week specifically because I expected it’ll be more reliable and have less problems than the 22 Tundra. Nothing against Toyota, but it’s a new drivetrain vs the Ecoboost that has 10+ years of development. Saw so many problems with the early years of the 3rd Gen Tacomas, it’s obvious Toyota quality isn’t what it was. I’m not signing up to be their Beta Tester.


Plus, the Ford has front tow hooks.

 

It’s not a new drivetrain. This TTv6 has been around for years in Lexus platforms. It is new at doing truck stuff, though. But this is part of why Toyota doesn’t have as many first-year issues with a new design. They typically use a lot of parts that were introduced on Lexus platforms. There may be a few hiccups, but I don’t think it’s ever as bad as the first year domestic models.

The 3rd gen Taco thing comes down to people not liking how Toyota tuned the drivetrain more than actual issues. I know there were a few (leaking rear diff for example), but all those trucks are still going and will go for an extremely long time.

 

The problem with the 3rd Gen Taco is that they put a non-truck engine in a truck. The powerband is wrong for a truck, regardless of the rest of the drivetrain and gearing. Hopefully they learned from that mistake….

 

The flat floor was a huge deal to me too. Two large dogs and a six month old plus the wife is pretty tight in the 2015 Taco. But that flat floor is going to be a game changer when my Tremor arrives (hopefully March)

 

I can see where this is going... pickups will morph into huge SUVs... maybe with a poptop.

 

The reason for the hump is to clear the driveshaft. There are tradeoffs involved with eliminating it.

 

Does Fords cab sit up higher, or transmission lower? How do they get by with no hump?

 

Reducing rear axle up travel would be another way to do it. Doesn't seem very optimal if you want a low floor, ground clearance, and wheel travel.

 

F-150 Powerboost Lariat VS 2022 Tundra Limited Off-Road (I will choose one of these 2).

Ford advantage:
- Almost the same price for a lot more options
- 5K under MSRP
- 1.99% vs 4.99% Financing
- 24 MPG
- Drives smaller, Tundra drives big
- 4WD Auto
- Built in Tailgate Step and more functional tailgate
- ProPower onboard 7.2KW
- Trailer assist
- 200+lb more payload
- Flat Rear floor
- Collapsible storage box under rear seats
- Huge range of available accessories

Toyota advantage - better predicted reliability

 

If your ok to wait, Granger is selling custom orders for 3% under Invoice. My fully loaded Tremor was $63k. Plus a plane ticket to Iowa

 

Ya, thanks - I edited my list

 

Thanks, I am in Canada. I can wait, no issues there and I managed to get a custom order quote with Black appearance package and $5K off MSRP. But still want to find arguments to get the Tundra - it's a hard decision though . Wondering if the electronic issues the Fords are having have to do with the revised systems for 2021 and being first year models.

 

What electrical issues?

 

I'm sure everyone figured it out many decades ago. The tradeoffs are the problem; you give up important aspects in order to get it.

I'd rather have a bigger hump, and a cab that's lower to the ground.

 

I've seen some posts with some 2021 models having some infotainment system issue with some bad control modules. Also few with the hybrid model with some issues. Lots of people without issues though so thinking these issues are a combination of first year models and Covid built cars

 

I'll take reliability every time. How nice are those advantages while sitting in the shop?? lol