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ADS Triple bypass questions

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Hightide, Jan 4, 2021.

  1. Jan 4, 2021 at 6:56 PM
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    Hightide

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    Looking at going with the ADS triple bypass rears but had a couple of questions.

    Being a daily driver that tows a lot, will my airbags negate the benefit of the plush ride?

    How much noise do they actually make?

    I’ve heard anything from, nothing to, people stop and tell me my truck is broken.

    What are the typical noise levels and would anyone have a sound clip?

    TIA!
     
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  2. Jan 4, 2021 at 7:05 PM
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    not sure about the airbags part of your question, but can help with the sound part.

    I definitely notice them at slow speeds with my windows down. They really only clack with bumps and such in the road. Windows up you won’t hear them. They really do just sound like you have a loose strap or something in the back of the bed that is bonking around or something. I definitely wouldn’t let the sound affect my decision.

    but having said that, I believe the King 3.0 triple bypass shocks use nylon valves instead of metal and are much quieter more to the the point where you can’t hear them.. just what I have been told, but might be worth looking into if you don’t want to hear anything in the rear ended of the truck.

    good luck!
     
  3. Jan 4, 2021 at 7:17 PM
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    I have ADS triple bypasses and was concerned about the noise before installing. My daughter has misophonia so certain sounds are really bad. She has not complained once about the clicking sound the bypasses make (My truck is my DD and she actually prefers going places in my truck over my wife’s Subaru). I find that I actually like the sound and the clicking is not nearly as loud as I thought it would be. I can’t hear the clicking with the windows up so sometimes I put the windows down so I can hear an audible reminder that I did something good for my truck. :D

    I don’t tow anything more than a popup but I would imagine that airbags might impact the benefit of the bypasses.
     
  4. Jan 4, 2021 at 8:57 PM
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    Thanks!
    I thought about the Kings(and will continue to consider) but the way everyone raves about the ADSs had me leaning that way.
    May have a deal available on the ADS as well.
     
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  5. Jan 4, 2021 at 9:03 PM
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    Good stuff!

    My son is on the spectrum and has sound issues as well. Unless he’s making the sounds, then loud as possible.
    Not sure it’s a purchase mover but I think he would enjoy some noise.
    He loves riding in my truck, hearing the exhaust and says, “Go fast! Go fast! Go fast!”

    The airbag thing has me over-thinking the whole process.
    I plan on going with Daystar cradles but don’t won’t it to overcome the benefit of the ADS.
    Probably, going with some Deavers at some point but have to get it all sorted.

    I tow regularly and it will be at least two years before the Tundra becomes a dedicated toy.

    Thanks for your feedback!
     
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  6. Jan 4, 2021 at 10:06 PM
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    no problem with noise here. they work good. I think for the price they are great and paired with Deaver pack even better.
     
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  7. Dec 19, 2021 at 6:22 PM
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    Recently put Deavers in the rear with 2.5” smooth body ADS shocks, because I have airbags. I use Daystar cradles as well.

    The thought was that the airbags are effectively acting as bumpstops when not load carrying, and that bypasses wouldn’t be able to do all they’re supposed to. Like you, I’m a couple years away from my Tundra not handling all duties. When is no longer towing and hauling, the bags will come out and trips will go in.

    Current setup works very well, but is a trade off. Can’t have it all…
     
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  8. Apr 6, 2022 at 4:24 PM
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    Big random ask, but hoping someone can help me out here. Can anyone with ads bypass (or any bypass for that matter) crawl under the back of their truck and snap a photo for me? Looking for a photo being shot from where the rear diff. pumpkin is; outwards towards the rear shock/wheel but trying to get the full shock body in the photo if possible (I know the leaf will cut some of it off and that’s fine). Passenger side would be better because the shock is exposed more. Thanks in advance!
     
  9. Apr 6, 2022 at 5:03 PM
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    Here ya go:
    Passenger-
    IMG_1958.jpg

    IMG_1960.jpg

    Driver-
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    IMG_1962.jpg
     
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  10. Apr 6, 2022 at 5:15 PM
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    Perfect! Thank you!
     
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  11. Apr 6, 2022 at 5:16 PM
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    It's the most action my truck has seen in months. :(
     
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    Can you run bypasses with stock wheel offsets (+60mm or +50mm)?
    I’m thinking about saving up for MCM’s bolt in ADS bypasses, but want to keep my rock warriors and not run spacers.
     
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  13. Apr 7, 2022 at 9:20 AM
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    Well, the rear end of your truck might be the basis for some artwork on a kids t-shirt! Stay tuned :)
     
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  14. Apr 21, 2022 at 10:51 PM
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    I have them with rock warrior wheels and 315/70/17s. They are VERY close but don’t rub.
     
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  15. Apr 22, 2022 at 6:57 AM
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    Thanks! Exactly the setup I’m interested in!
     
  16. Apr 22, 2022 at 7:13 AM
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    Some people stated they rub on articulating bump, have you verified no contact when cycling the suspension?
     
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    RW are +50mm
     
  18. Apr 22, 2022 at 7:35 AM
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    Haha sorry, yes yes you are correct. Damn.

    Some reason I had Icon offset in my mind.
     
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    On that note,

    Very nice setup for sale on IG

    20220422_073431.jpg
     
  20. Apr 23, 2022 at 9:33 PM
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    I’ve cycled it as far as in can go in an articulation type scenario (bump stop contact if I recall) and they “barely” clear. About 3/8” of inch if I remember correctly.
     
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    Don’t forget about sidewall bulge. Just got sent picture of where mine were rubbing from the shop. Tire bulges and hits it. Clears barely the rest of the time. I thought I was good.
     
  22. Nov 3, 2022 at 8:20 AM
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    Hey Chad D, I think I have a similar use case to you. I daily drive a 2018 CM and tow a 5500lb travel trailer with WDH pretty regularly. Daily driving I'm pretty much unloaded. I dont have, nor do I plan to get a RTT, racks, or other heavy full time gear in the bed. I like to hit trails with my kids, I hunt, and generally try to spend as much time in the mountains on rough roads as possible. Your experience and input sounds valuable to me in my current decision making process...

    I am currently running stock leaf packs and stock shocks in conjunction with load lifter airbags (no cradles) and a 1.5" lift block. It all sits on 295/70/18 Cooper disco's. I like the air bags for towing. They really do help stabilize the rear of the truck and I think they work well in conjunction with the WDH.

    I'd like to upgrade to a deaver leaf pack (K37 or U748), ADS shocks (2.5 resi's or trip bypass), and prob keep the airbags for the towing.

    I'm struggling with 2 things: First is remote reservoir shocks vs trip bypass. Second is will the airbags/cradle combo be detrimental enough to unloaded/off road ride to make me regret keeping them.

    Do you feel like the trip bypass would be severely limited by running the airbags or do you just think the full benefit of the trips are not realized with the bags in place?

    Hope that makes sense. Thanks for the input. I also welcome anyone else's input with these sorts of "double duty" setups. I know it's tough to build a truck that does all things great, just trying to find the best compromise before dropping this kind of money and time on a setup.
     
  23. Nov 4, 2022 at 6:16 PM
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    My vote is to skip the bypasses if you’re keeping the airbags. They’re not going to get into the bump section with the bags preventing much up-travel.

    Carrying any weight or towing, I’d only consider the U748 of the two options you’ve listed. K37 will be too light for your use, in my opinion. Alcan could also make you a nice set of springs.
     
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    I am going to do some weigh in's at the scale to verify my unloaded weight. I do know that when I'm loaded up with all my people, gear, and trailer (with WDH engaged) my rear axle weight is about 3450. Once I know the delta between unloaded and loaded on the rear I'm going to check in with Deaver to see what they recommend for a spring pack. I like the idea of sticking with Deaver since they're sort of hooked up with ADS and MCM.

    Coincidentally, I recently picked up some new RCI sliders and I had to remove my airlift wireless compressor from the frame rail in order to install the sliders. The bags are still in place but obviously no air in them. I noticed an improvement in unloaded ride quality immediately. Little bumps around the neighborhood and on the highway are less jarring. We also pulled the camper up to Steamboat last weekend and it's the first time I've towed that trailer without the bags. While I did notice more of what I would describe as "wallow" in the rear suspension, the truck sat fairly level and towed ok. I only air the bags up to about 25 psi to supplement the WDH, but they definitely do help to stiffen and support the load with the trailer on. It was a good data point that planted a seed that I may not absolutely need the airbags for the towing scenario. I'll have to tow some more and perhaps adjust the WDH a bit and see if I can come up with a way to comfortable tow without the bags full time. And one more thing: Guys who say stuff like "I can't even feel the trailer back there with airbags" are full of shit. It's a naturally aspirated Tundra dude, not a class 8 heavy hauler...

    Anyway, back to the subject of ADS trip bypass....

    I think someone may have mentioned it previously or perhaps in another thread, but are the triple bypasses available with a tool less adjuster knob or do you need wrenches to adjust them? Also, is tool less adjustably even an advantage if it is available? I know I probably cant take full advantage of the bypasses if I keep the airbags but the more I think about it, it would be nice to have the ability to tune compression and rebound vs just compression with the RR.

    Additionally, how much "playing around" are you guys doing with these bypasses to get them adjusted to your liking? Seems like if you found your settings for "tow" and "play" you could record them and then pretty easily go back and forth between the two depending on your situation.

    Thanks!
     
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    Some external bypass shocks have options for finger clickers...

    For Fox...

    Fox has QAB and needs to be upgraded on a discharged shock.


    upload_2022-11-10_13-22-50.jpg

    or requisite 6 point socket and stubby ratchet and leave it in your glovebox with your wheel key...

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