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First Oil Change Interval

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by millerstone, May 15, 2017.

  1. May 15, 2017 at 9:05 PM
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    So this has gotten beaten to death around here and tacomaworld but I still want opinions on when to do the first oil change. I just hit 1300 miles with my new Tundra and want to take care of it. Stealership won't do my free one until 10k and I've never done one before, but I know my way around a toolset so I'm sure it wouldn't be too bad to do on my own. What's the consensus? I figure changing the oil can't hurt anything but my wallet, but with the recent truck purchase it could use a break. Thanks in advance!

    As a side note, I've never been OK with anyone but me working on my bikes and I'm leaning towards the same mentality with my new truck. Can you trust a dealership with something easy like an oil change? I don't trust them further than I can throw them as it stands now.
     
  2. May 15, 2017 at 9:40 PM
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    I do mine every 5k...some guys out here say same... seen few guys do at 10k..ther some youtube vids on how to do...also i jus purchased the fumoto valve to put on oil pan make draining less messy.. also others have stated to change out ther oil filter canister to the metal or aluminum one believe its aluminum..did my first oil change was a breeze filters i get from dealership oem..also someone else posted a link for the plastic tube to drain filter this one has a tube for less mess some one will chime in
     
  3. May 16, 2017 at 3:43 AM
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    Wonder if techstream can change the interval to 5k for reminder?
     
  4. May 16, 2017 at 3:51 AM
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    I'm at 4600miles on my 2017 and it to just started showing maintenance required soon.

    I need to research which fumoto valve to purchase so I can install when I change the oil. I will be doing my oil changes, I feel better about it doing my own work to vehicles plus I can do it much quicker then the dealerships.
     
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  5. May 16, 2017 at 3:56 AM
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    F103N (has nipple) so i can attach hose
     
  6. May 16, 2017 at 4:02 AM
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    Some one posted a link to a site that sells a gadget that screws into place where u take off that cap to expose where u place that plastic tube to drain oil in filter..well is screws into that and it to has some type of valve you turn also has a nipple on bottom you can attach hose i believe so its no mess when draining for filter
     
  7. May 16, 2017 at 4:19 AM
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    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe all new purchases come with free maintenance until 30K miles. I paid another $1500 and got that program extended to 100K. I believe the interval is every 5k miles.

    Additionally, the mechanics at the dealership have to be ASE certified and many have 4-yea degrees in toyota specific maintenance and repair.

    For my old Tacoma, I only allowed the dealer to work on it. That was there was a record of all care provided for the truck. If anything ever went wrong, it was on toyota to remedy.
     
  8. May 16, 2017 at 5:10 AM
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    I'm non-flex but want to go ahead and do the first one at 5k and then I will decide if I want to do 5k or 10k. I pull a trailer everyday for work so I might just stick to 5k.
     
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  9. May 16, 2017 at 5:11 AM
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  10. May 16, 2017 at 5:20 AM
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    changing early isn't going to hurt the truck... just maybe your wallet a little. The way new engines are built, with such better tolerances than in generations previously, you don't have the same 'break-in' processes like we had back in the day of changing after 100, 500 and then 3k miles...

    I just changed mine when i hit 5k... or rather the dealer did since we have the free maintenance for a while... after that, it will only be me wrenching on my truck.

    As for trusting the dealer... I'd trust a dealer over a jiffylube any day of the week...
     
  11. May 16, 2017 at 5:25 AM
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    I asked to service rep what brand of oil they use and he said Mobile 1. He also said you can go 6k - 7k between oil changes (after your free maintenance is done) with a flex engine as long as you never use E85 fuel. Once you use E85 he recommended not to drive more then 2500 without an oil change. Then go back to real gas, do a couple of oil changes at 5k mark, and then go back to the 6k-7k range.

    My free maintenance is 2 years or 25k. I am on my second oil change. Honestly I would not worry about the 10k change.

    Kurt
     
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  12. May 16, 2017 at 5:26 AM
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    Better tolerances sounds like tighter tolerances. which, to me, means lubrication more important.

    First oil change was by me at 3,400. Will be doing every 5k.
     
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  13. May 16, 2017 at 5:39 AM
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    perhaps my wording was misleading.... i believe that engine components are manufactured to much higher tolerances than in generations past and as a result, aren't designed or built to "break-in" or "wear to fit" and as a result, there's less crap floating around in the oil. Having broken in some old school motors, after rebuild, they run pretty hot and have crazy high compression until components are worn down a little so that everything fits together... I'm no mechanical engineer, just what i've seen/heard regarding components. But then take a look at the actual engine design... moving from flat tappet to roller cams takes away a ton of crap in the oil under the initial phase... since you're not literally wearing the tappet to fit the camlobe

    but to reiterate my point... changing the oil early won't do any harm to the truck...
     
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  14. May 16, 2017 at 6:00 AM
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    If your engine is going to blow its going to blow no matter how often your change your oil. As my wife, who owns 10 shuttle buses, has the oil change regularly at 5k, in all gas buses, and she still had two engines die around the 130K mark.

    And one diesel at 119K that had PM service done twice a year, but then again it was an international engine.

    Kurt
     
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    Right on, thanks for all the replies! I'll probably end up doing it myself when I get the time. Just ordered a Fumoto valve to make subsequent changes painless. If I still take advantage of the dealer oil changes will they be salty when they see the Fumoto? Anyone have any experience with that?
     
  17. May 17, 2019 at 12:20 PM
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    Just got a 2019 5.7L FFV, the service manual insert says first change at 2.5k I know it said 5k service after that, but don't remember if it said to change oil every time. The dealership has the free intervals at 5k starting at 5k, but I'm going to take it up there at 2.5k anyway and make them do it and just pay for it if they give me shit. I normally like to change the oil on new engines around 1k to get any of the initial shavings out, but thinking the newer engines may need more break in time before doing the first change.
     
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    If Toyota says 2500 then Toyota care should cover it.
     
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    Also recommend the aluminum housing motive drain hose/ tool and fumoto valve
    Made the change a BREZZE!!
     
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    Clearances, folks, clearances. Tolerances have not changed for decades, it is the clearances that might have along with modern bearing materials.

    And the interval with non-FFV engines is 10,000 miles. No reason to change any sooner than that. And even at 69, I have never had anyone change oil/filter on any of my vehicles ever, always do it myself.

    Dan
     
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    For FFV engines, I think you would only cut the interval down to 5k IF you are running E85 correct? The thinking being that it produces acids that can reduce the lubricity of the oil, although the detergents in most oils will take care of this unless you are running a JASO approved oil that leaves these out for things like motorcycles with wet clutches.
     
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    There have been countless samples sent off to Blackstone and pretty much all of them match the owners manual for interval. Many samples come back with an even higher interval of 12-15K. As an engineer, I go by the engineers who designed it.
     
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    I've honestly never understood why people choose to change their oil more frequently than the manufacturer's recommendation. Oil chemistry and engine technology have evolved tremendously over the years - yet people still believe you need to change your oil every 3K miles. As long as you use a good quality synthetic there is no reason to change before the 10K interval for non-FFV. All you're doing by changing more frequently is wasting money that could be spent on other things...like mods!

    If you're seriously that concerned about it then do an oil analysis from Blackstone. The test kit is free and I guarantee they'll recommend you go even longer in between changes.
     
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    Ok I just purchased my truck which was manufactured on 3/19. This is almost 4 months of sitting on a lot. This would mean that I should change the oil in it right? The manual clearly states that it is 5k miles or 5 months whichever comes first.

    Has any of you considered the build date and how many months have passed that it sat on a lot before you purchased and factored that time in? I do not believe I heard anyone mention this before. By the way I have 200 miles on it now.
     
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    On new vehicles I do what the dealer wants me to. It’s free!! FFV is 5K other new Tundras are 10k for oil changes or six months, they have to come in at 5K to rotate tires!! This has all been stated many many many times before!! Have a nice days, it really isn’t that complicated??!!!:)
     
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    What hes going off is the time not distance.
     
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    Toyota care goes off the purchase date so 6 months from purchase date get a free oil change no matter if your below 5k miles or not.
     
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    First sentence I posted above. Do what the dealer wants. Most schedule your first oil change when you get a new truck before you even leave.
     
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    If you do whatever the dealer wants to do you might as well hand them your check book after you pass your warranty.
     

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