How much "electrical load" can TRD Hybrid handle ?

I had made a post and asked "how much load"... And now I can't edit the title ☹️ People are probably skipping it, because they assume I mean payload, or towing... And put it in the wrong section.

Plz read that. But if it's too long, just answer this, if you can.... Will the TRD Hybrid have an alternator ? Or, an inverter connected to the bigger hybrid battery ? ....like my Prius.

 

I think a inverter like the one in Tacoma

 

Official welcome

 

Thank you. I didn't even think about the Tacoma Hybrid, but okay, and in my Prius. As I say, the inverter is a very solid setup, without any fluctuations and such, but its probably not going to be quite big enough I really feel like at some point in the near future, aftermarket companies will start making high(er) power replacement inverters, just as they currently do with alternators. Just hope that happens soon. As I have said, IMPO, even set up correctly (efficiently) a good, solid SQL system needs at least 150-200 amps.

 

Tacoma is not a hybrid, they just have that option.

 

Yes, that's what I meant.... The Tacoma with the Hybrid option. Dumb question though.... are the Tacoma Hybrids already out ? OR, are they coming out in 2022 also ???

 

Probably won't come out until the redesign.

 

And again just like the price question,no one knows!

Not trying to be a jerk but nothing has changed until someone actually gets one and can answer these questions.

 

Of course. I just had a bit of a brain lapse, and was thinking Tacoma Hybrids were already out when 'Winning' first mentioned it. Don't you think its crazy that Toyota came out with the first hybrid Prius almost 25 years ago ?!?! Talk about lagging with a hybrid truck ! And how crazy is it that Ford beat Toyota to it ?!

 

Ford company have the strive, if Ford could beat Ferrari with their Ford GT, they could beat Toyota in hybrid.

 

Well, I think they are both really great companies As I've said before, I'm not really stuck on any particular brands of vehicles, I just really like vehicles in general Heck, I'd love to have an F350 Super duty Ford, a Tesla Model S plaid, a McLaren 720, a Corvette C8, etc, etc

About the whole power inverter thing, I'm quite sure both Toyota and Ford, or heck, anyone who makes a Hybrid, could easily make an inverter that was multiple X's stronger.... I just don't think their is a lot of call for it. Not a lot of people really care about a strong, clean stereo system. Even what a lot of people would consider strong and clean, is not really that strong.... Or clean, compared to what is possible with today's audio tech.

 

If you in construction, or like to tow some toys to motor sport event running an air compressor is very common.

 

Great points ! I sure hope they are rated for 100-150 amps. And then I'd feel really safe to run amps fused for 150-200 amps.... Which as I say, nowadays, I think that would be enough for me. Those 500-1000+ amp stereo setups really tear up a vehicle anyway. If I had the time and money for that, I'd definitely use an older vehicle.

 

I dont understand your thoughts here really? If you want a huge ass stereo system doesnt it still run on 12vdc like all trucks already make and not 120vac which an inverter produces from 12vdc?

 

In the videos I've seen they keep calling the "electric motor" a motor/generator.

 

Yes, there is a 12 volt side (usually about 13-14.5 volts actually) but the stereo "runs on" amps. Voltage is merely the potential for power. The power is in amps. Now, one can stack up a bunch of batteries to try to store a bunch of power, but I've always felt it was better just to make enough to begin with.

And btw, as I said, I'm getting too old for "huge ass stereos". To me, that would be like 20, or 40 Kwts or more..... And that really tears up vehicles.
IMPO, a 3 to 5 Kwt system is pretty reasonable. It's funny how people who think they don't need or want a loud stereo, would listen to a 3-5 Kwt system, using like 1000 or 1500 wts and not think it was too loud. It would be pretty loud on a decibel meter, but when it's ultra clean, it really tricks your ears. Sometimes it's hard to know it's loud, until you try to talk or hear someone talking over it. Great for road noise though. Especially with the windows down.... On the freeway And for demos

 

Yeah none of this speaks to my question at all really?

I am wondering what the Inverter is that you are talking about and at what voltage you hope it will make enough current for your now smaller than big-ass current needs?
Are you talking about the Hybrid battery bank being stepped down to Automotive Voltage high enough in current to operate your system?

I think it is already known that rather than the Hybrid system in the new trucks being able to deliver some huge current requirement just because it has some capability through the batteries to do so that instead it is just for the Hybrid Assist Motor which is more to augment the Gas motor for Truck moving duties.

The reason I even asked is that the Ford all electric truck and the ones they sell with the Genset in them indeed do have huge Inverters to produce 120vac from the 12vdc so that you can use them to run household devices that require higher current than most vehicles can produce.

I do not think this is at all what Toyota has in mind for this new truck.

This is what I was wondering if you thought it might be designed to do?

By the way I design and build custom AV systems and have for 45 years.
I got out of Auto stuff a long,long time ago and just dont see any point to it in my own life.
Sounds like you are trying to explain "Dynamics" and the ability to discern Quality vs Quantity which is usually just lost in the ambient noise of a vehicle in systems not designed for the environment in the end.

 

Most vehicles made today can safely run 600 watts to 1500 watts without worry. Just depends on the alternator rating and how much accessory load is required during typical driving.

An amplifier and sub setup thats rated, and setup to run 1000 watts will only draw that much in short burst. The rest of the time its drawing significantly less than that potential 1000 watts.

 

For sure but I get the distinct impression that that is only a fraction of the current needs that he has in mind for some reason.

I also asked because it sounded a little like he was looking to use 120vac amps from the way the question was worded to me?

 

I am talking about "running off of the 12V side" (13.2-14.5V)

Their are actually a few car audio amplifiers designed to run off of high voltage.... like 120V-300V too, which is kind of crazy, but I have no experience with those.
Like I said, my Prius has a "supposed" max amperage draw of 30 amps. I'm running a 5 ch amp that is fused for 90 amps. I believe I probably pull 40 or 50 amps in short spikes and haven't had any problems (and it sounds surprisingly good). But I'd want a somewhat stronger system in my Tundra, than I have in my F150. The two amps in it are fused for 300 amps. I think I probably pull 150-200 amps at full tilt. My alternator is rated at 320 amps (at only slightly more than idle, on a cool day)
My point is, I'd be surprised if I could pull 200-300 amps continuously, with peaks of like 400-500 from the Tundra Hybrid. I know their are a few electrical gurus working on ways to run big systems in Hybrids, and even, all electric vehicles, but Im not sure they have worked out all the bugs yet.

 

Yea, that's okay in my Prius But I like something that will blur your vision, and stay crystal clear, with great mids and highs, and sharp, tight mid bass too. My F150 does pretty good. But I want something stronger.