2022 Tundra

You may have issues with HD trucks then too, GMC HD bed height is only 21". Half ton beds have gotten super tall for aerodynamic (more fuel efficient) reasons and look funny IMO. IIRC TFL put a GMC 1500 beside a GMC 2500 and the 1500 bedside was higher off the ground than the 2500.

 

Current calipers clear 17's, hence why I am aksing.

Dealership offered me the same price I paid for my tundra, thinking about flipping it back to stock and keeping some parts and selling off others (tires, lights, switches would keep). I could sell off all the parts for $12-15k and pocket $35k off the truck to put towards a 22 and drive my dads tundra Nov-March for $100 a month (he keeps it in storage in Montana during the winter).

 

I was figuring 3-4 inches on each side making the total of 6 to 8 overall.

 

At least you didn’t find out after she torqued your plugs. Oh what a surprise that would’ve been. Lol.

 

What’s done is done.

 

Right 4” each side for 8 total. That can’t be right

 

I know right? Remember when a lot of Tundra owners and fans (myself included) were proud of their V8 and gave Ford a lot of crap for piping in fake noise in the Raptors? Now Toyota does the same thing, SMH.

 

I always thought the half ton beds were deep so they could tout cargo volume even though the beds are super short.
My Dometic on its slide on the plywood I have it mounted to is just under 21” tall. It works great with my TC USA roll cover.

 

It’s definitely strange! If that spec sheet that was circulating around was correct, the inside bed width is now a couple inches narrower (57” or thereabouts). My 2010 is 62” from inside bed rail, to inside bed rail. It’s a bit weird that the new Gen (which is apparently wider and requires raptor lights as the wheels/body/fenders are outside 80” on the pro) but the inside of the bed is somehow narrower.
That spec sheet could be wrong (again) or maybe the the bed rails themselves are wider/thicker. Possibly due to the composite construction?

 

I would if they will. I run 17s on my GX.

 

Just spoke with a dealer in Canada. Price for limited with TRD off road crewmax 5.5 is roughly $67k.

 

He probably doesn't know anymore than we do about the price yet

 

If that is true, how does it compare to current prises?

 

It’s roughly 54k USD. I can’t configure a 21 Limited TRD CM on the Toyota website, but I was able to configure one fully loaded for around 50k.

 

$67k converts to $54,500 American. Doubtful any dealer has any idea of price. By the time you add 4wd, Crewmax, Limited options and packages, you will be looking low $60's for a limited with popular options.

That is if there is even any sliver of truth to that pricing.......

 

I think $55k for a limited CM 4wd hybrid with TRD Off-road is doable.
Everyone predicting extreme price jump when they have to remain competitive. They will be priced comparably with Ford as optioned, worst case.

 

Rear air bags and funky electric shocks. Has Toyota not seen that those systems never last and are not reliable? No manufacturer has even gone the long haul on those. By the looks of it, not 1, not 2, but 3 fans. This thing must generate some serious heat. And the complexity of all that shoved in there is like trying to figure out a Rubik’s cube. To me the 07+ tundras was a better redesign over all. And it took the big3 years to play catch up. With this 3rd gen they are now on par with the competition. Not what I was expecting from Toyota.

 

I agree that more complexity brings less reliability. Hopefully with Toyota’s history they have or will find ways to lengthen the longevity of these systems. I think Toyota’s Hybrid vehicles are a great example.

There are numerous complaints (comment not directed at you @pursuit2550) and almost constant bickering about how far behind the 2.5 Tundra was behind the big 3. UNFORTUNATELY…I believe Toyota listened and departed from the tried and true method (longer simplistic model runs to work out the kinks) of building vehicle at least with their truck line. I love the simplistic approach and don’t need the lasted greatest technology or amenities. But things are definitely changing at Toyota…

*EDIT* With all this say I still have plenty of faith in the new Tundra until proven otherwise.

 

And conversely,

“Screw the perfectly great truck I already own that could still go a couple more hundred thousand miles trouble free. Shiny new thing go brrrr.”

 

For their sake I hope they did their homework. Lots of complaints lately from the 19-21 crowd. I own a 2020 and have no “real” complains. I know that with more tech comes more troubles. The bickering crowd forgets that when Toyota and Honda come out with something it’s for the long haul and reliable. If you buy anything from the big 3 it’s changed every so often, sometimes better other times not. I prefer to have a engine and trans that is reliable than have 20usb chargers, a 1.1 gigs watt bed outlet and tow 20 tons. Just the same song and dance about a couple of mpg on a 6-7000lb truck. It’s hilarious.

 

I am with you here…not a complaint in the world with my 2020. Very pleased with the purchase and by my favorite Toyota I have ever owned. Not far behind is my old 1998 Tacoma V6 4x4 EXT cab.

 

Hmm, liking the 'shiny new thing' because it's objectively better in almost every way, or crapping on the objectively better thing because it doesn't rumble. Yeah, those are both apples.

 

It's the true turd gen. Ford did it first.

 

More power, better efficiency, more payload and towing, better ride, nicer interior, better electronics; but "waaaaaaaah, something something Ford".

 

Yes, it’s fun to have your position mischaracterized, isn’t it?

Look, I get it; some guys on here turn their noses up at new tech. But there are legit reasons for not trading in your current Tundra for the 3rd gen. The current Tundra, despite being less efficient and less powerful, is a great truck. It is proven. It has shown time and time again that it can be pushed past its limits (within reason) with no issues. There are loads of 2nd gens out there that are so outfitted with gear that they’re at or above GAWR just sitting there with no one in it. Yet the truck shrugs and just keeps going.

What NEVER works out is the math of buying a new truck for a 20% bump in fuel economy and a 300lb bump in payload (if that) when you still have an extremely long service life left in your current paid off (or mostly paid off) truck. A 6.5’ bed 3rd gen crewmax with a payload of 1270 (this is the actual number on the door jamb) suffers from the exact same problem as the 2nd gens; that is, running out of payload before they get anywhere near the max tow rating. In my book, THIS IS NOT A STEP FORWARD.

As I’ve said many times, I’m sure the 3rd gen is going to be a great truck for many people. I’m not rushing out to extend the time I’m making $500 payments for it though. But I am an admitted Toyota fan. I’ll probably end up in one. The only thing that would keep me from getting a 3rd gen Tundra down the road is if I can stomach buying a domestic HD truck.

 

Less room in the backseat
Smaller bed
Longer truck

 

This has been explained on this site many times and there are still a lot of people who don't get it. Replacing a paid off truck to try to save money on fuel is going to cost a person money in the long run. I'm perfectly fine with people wanting a new truck. They just shouldn't lie to themselves about why they're buying it.

The base Corolla gets 25 mpg. The hybrid Corolla costs about $2k more and gets 50 mpg. Based on the way my family uses our current Corolla, it would take us about 5 years for the fuel savings to pay off that $2k higher purchase price. We don't drive a ton but gas prices are pretty high here compared to a lot of places in the US ($4.55 USD/US gallon equivalent right now). Let's make up some random numbers and optimistically say a person could get $45k for their second gen and buy a third gen for $50k. How long is it going to take to pay off that $5k purchase cost going from 18 mpg highway to 22?

My thoughts exactly.

 

Got to make room for that larger grille.