2022 Tundra

I really wanted to see what a color matched A pillar looked like:

 

I can't decide if I like that look better, or if it just looks normal to me. The more I see the new Tundra, the less the new grill sticks out to me and I like it more and more everytime I see it.

 

I wonder how much Toyota will change and expand on the trim offerings in the coming years... Because that's some major BS that the SR5 can't be had with the hybrid. Same goes with the double cab, seems like that's being ignored. Just crossing my fingers because I've got no need for a huge back seat and I'm not interested in a land yacht just to get 6.5' of bed space.

I've got an access cab 6' Tacoma now and couldn't imagine going with a shorter bed now

 

That's only if it starts though.

 

https://youtu.be/nDzQjMLKk_w

 

I noticed that the Tundra now uses dual piston front calipers, instead of 4 piston front calipers. Anyways....

My enthusiasm for this truck has cooled a bit. I'm dubious about:
- acceleration disappointing with such strong power numbers
- no AWD. This would have had me considering paying ADM.
- pretty much only black wheels are offered, and some of the chrome/silver offerings are not my style. I'd need to blow money on new wheels and color matched trim.

Now waiting for pricing, which may further dampen my enthusiasm.

I will say, if I needed to buy a truck, it would absolutely be the new Tundra.
But, it doesn't make me want it bad enough to buy it when my current truck suits me fine.

 

I'm kind of in the same boat, I originally got my current truck to hold onto for a few years for Toyota to work out any issues with the new setup, then as more info came out and issues with my current truck I told myself I am going to put a deposit down on a new tundra. I am now starting to lean towards keeping my current truck for a couple of years. Pricing will probably be the tipping point for me either to jump in now or wait.

 

If only it wasn't so true...

 

I will eat a little Crowe on pricing......

When first officially announced a few weeks ago, the Pro was pitched as now being one of the more high end luxury models with a Fox suspension and hybrid. To me, that signaled top of the food chain pricing compared to other models.....

Now more information is coming out, the Pro is missing a good bit of features when compared to the Platinum and 1794. Therefore, I would think it would need to be in the same range as those or maybe just a little cheaper. From what I was hearing and thought, the Pro would be in the MSRP range of $70k. After looking at what it is missing, I think it needs to be in the low to mid $60's to be competitive, if Toyota even cares about being competitive with it......

I think it will be interesting to see the Chevy ZR2 and how it is priced since they should be pretty comparable for the most part.

 

It is correct!

https://news.yahoo.com/2022-toyota-tundra-pickup-brings-215026485.html


Engines: Twin-turbo V6 and twin-turbo V6 hybrid

Output:

Gasoline only: 342 or 389 hp @ 5,200 rpm, depending on model; 405 or 479 pound-feet of torque @ 2,000 or 2,400 rpm, depending on model

Hybrid: 437 hp @ 5,200 rpm; 583 pound-feet of torque @ 2,400 rpm

 

It seemed familiar...

 

its not the top model in those regards, its based off a limited. The 1794 and Platinum are the top trims

 

Good questions and answers.
https://youtu.be/i1G8w9MsTlI

 

I was watching a video saying the SR5 off road only comes with the reverse camera. I really like the camera that over looks the bed and maybe front facing camera. Are those not available options for the sr5?

 

The IS 500 is new for 2022 and its gonna have 5.0L v8 with 472 HP and 395 Lb-Ft
https://www.lexus.com/IS500/

 

That's the one thing that I do not like about Toyota is not allowing options on some packages. I will seriously consider getting a Pro in a couple years, but why don't they offer the tow mirrors and the trailer backup assist on it? The Pro has been marketed as an offroad capable truck that still has all the towing and payload capabilities of the regular Tundra unlike the Raptor. The Raptor is a better offroad truck, but you lose towing and payload. That backup assist would be perfect for me. My wife can't back up a trailer and doesn't drive our boat either so I could get the trailer lined up at the ramp, jump in the boat and let her back it in with the assist. Silly things like that drive me nuts, why isn't it an option? The Pro is marketed as a top of the line model so why don't they offer every option on it?

 

Yes. I believe that’s correct. More HP and torque than the current V8 and more than Ford.

 

I just saw a video on the new TRD pro and it looked great. Better grille and appears to have smoked out headlights.

My only issue is that with the hybrids, the battery in under the backseat. They added storage in that area for this new model but once the battery is there, you lose the that option.

mom hoping that’s just with the TRD-Pro and not all hybrid options.

 

The battery is under the back seat in all trims of hybrid.

 

It's all hybrid options, but you do get a small amount of storage behind the seat. Enough to throw a tow strap and some tiedowns back there or something, but not a ton.

 

Thanks. For me that’s enough to opt out of the hybrid. They should have placed it under the passenger seat like Jeep. I hate trading one option for another

 

well the TRD Pro was never promoted as a luxury off road, just a off road vehicle oriented vehicle with no frills.

if you want luxury pavement queen, toyota made the platinum/1794. granted they now make a 1794 off road but its no where the chops of the trd pro, its for those that lightly go off road maybe but want more luxury than off road.

but thats just my take on how they promote the different trims.

 

Submitted my vote

 

I may be wrong but wasn't the previous (current) gen TRD-PRO based off the SR5 and the new 2022 TRD-Pro based off of the Limited? Not arguing, just curious about the previous (current) gen.

 

I think that is correct

 

I can understand why some of the options aren't available in the SR5 and SR, but to me the Limited, 1794, and Platinum should all be on the same level with the same options available and the difference between them is basically their looks. That way we wouldn't have to compromise. Well I like the looks of this one, but this one has the options I want etc.

 

Yes and no....

2019 and older were SR5

2020 and newer based off Limited.

 

good question but i do not know that answer.

but either way i've always thought toyota's stance on the TRD Pro was a no frills off road vehicle. why do i need tow package, mirrors etc when it doesnt benefit off roading?

what does the fox shocks do for towing on the SR5 max payload/towing config? nothing that a better setup can do better like air bags and features designed for towing benefit that task (tow mirrors, etc).

i mean really do you need tow mirrors if your main purpose is to off road? not like you are going to extend them to get a better look at the rocks on the side?

yes you can tow but thats not the main purpose. just like my 4runner limited can go off road, but thats not its main purpose. its filling a narrow focus niche in the lineup in my opinion.

toyota builds a small subset for each vehicle trim that the majority want in that trim. it reduces build complexity (more things to break between systems) and ensure stuff is build correctly. you either take what they give or go find another manufacturer with more "i can do everything and the kitchen sink" complexity and possibly more failures between systems.

i read an article on this very concept yesterday and i quote a lot from it ...

https://jalopnik.com/the-supremely-comfortable-2022-toyota-tundra-brings-toy-1847842724

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The 2022 Toyota Tundra is replacing a truck that has been on the market — with the exact same engine and transmission — since 2006, so it’s about time Toyota brought its full-size pickup into the modern era. A boosted engine, 10-speed transmission, and coil spring-based suspension help the truck get there, yielding a solid, but not exactly stand-out, vehicle. But that’s the Toyota way, isn’t it?

In some ways, Toyota is the Apple of car companies. The Japanese automaker’s vehicles are a default choice for many, as the machines have a reputation for just working and keeping bullshit to a minimum. With that said, technology often lags the competition. For example, the current-generation Toyota Tacoma — which came out in 2015 and which isn’t that different than the previous model — still has rear drum brakes and a six-speed automatic. The last-gen Toyota Corolla, one of the best-selling small cars in the world, could be had with an antiquated four-speed automatic all the way up until 2016.

Toyota likes to kick it old school, and if you ask the company why, its representatives will spit out the acronym “QDR,” which stands for “Quality, Durability and Reliability.” The carmaker wants you to believe that it sticks with older tech because that tech still satisfies customers and meets the company’s QDR targets. “Fifteen years later, [the Tundra] was still meeting our customers’ expectations and doing what it needed to do,” Jay Sackett, executive program manager, told me at the press event.

“Frame development...it’s complex, and when we do it, we want to make sure we do things right and proper,” he said, mentioning that Toyota developed the Tundra alongside its platform mate, the new Toyota Land Cruiser (whose frame has the same side profile and rail width), and that the team was careful to hit its QDR for both machines when developing this new platform.

“It’s very rare for us to make a huge leap,” Sackett admitted. “Toyota is always about continuous improvement and Kaizen. We have what we have, and we understand it works well, and we make [incremental] improvements over time,” he told me, mentioning that the Tundra did have some refreshes along the way, but that though the old vehicle did still satisfy customers, it was time for a new Tundra after 15 model years.

 

Ultimately, I wonder if we're thinking about this truck the wrong way. You know what it is? It's a truck based on the Land Cruiser. Thinking about it that way is a little more appetizing than thinking about it as a less capable F150.

Reading your post, I think this is why I'm ready to go drive it myself and make my own evaluation. I'm still sitting here listening to these videos but its nothing new we haven't already heard. I might even test drive a F150 beforehand and do my own little comparison. These Youtube guys all need to generate controversy because they get paid by the number of likes, views, subscribers and comments. Remember, at the end of the day, the question isn't whether the truck works for Yuri and Jacob, it's whether it works for you.

I think Toyota screwed up the reveal. I think the buildup was too much, we read too much into everything. They didn't do enough to manage expectations. Words like "world beater" got thrown around. To be honest, if they offer this package and undercut Ford by $10k on each comparable trim package, it is a world beater. The problem with world beaters though, is that they're usually not appreciated in their time. I think if Toyota had been super quiet about it and just released everything at once we would have been blown away. The buildup and anticipation is ultimately what made this seem disappointing, but like other people had mentioned, it still checks all the boxes.

For me, I don't care that it can't tow as much as the Ford, or carry as much. I'm one of the people moving up from a crossover that you all seem to hate. I went back and reread a post I wrote a little over a month ago in another thread. (https://www.tundras.com/threads/what-do-you-want-in-2022-tundra.83760/page-10#post-2397411) It still checks all the boxes for me, and I've got a feeling it's going to check the boxes for other people like me.

 

Really hoping the spec sheet is correct and the platinum with off-road package is available. Trd pro is too stripped down now seeing the specs for my towing needs. Looks like it will most likely be a 1794 off road, loaded out with lots of color matching and new suspension and wheels/ tires