2022 Tundra

Here's a thread with some F-150 door tag pics posted, seems the 3.5tt6v Crew cabs in Lariat and Platinum are in the 1400-1700lbs range without the HD payload package
https://www.f150forum.com/f129/photos-2021-lariat-payload-stickers-490761/

My 2022 Tundra would be an SR5 CrewMax TRDOR with 6.5' bed, no sunroof, cloth seats, standard 3.5TT engine, so maybe the payload will hit 1500lbs.
1500lbs is still very low for the starting point of an overland build, which could easily add 2,500 lbs with passengers

Bumpers, sliders, skids, bed topper, RTT, extra fuel, water jugs totals an easy 1,000 lbs

 

Right. I was just saying that the 1/2 ton etc. has nothing to do with capability. Can't tell you how many people think that 1/2, 3/4, or 1 ton means how much weight you can put in the bed. It's old outdated verbiage that confuses people because they make assumptions based on it.

 

Blaming the fully box frame, it’s good and bad at the same time

 

Then you have 2 choices; ignore the payload or buy a different truck. Complaining that X manufacturer doesn't fit your needs is pointless. Buy a truck that fits what you want or change what you want to fit the truck. That is SOP for any truck purchase. I amended my wish list to fit within my trucks capabilities because I wasn't willing to go with a different manufacturer. It's a decision everyone has to make.

 

personally I like the ignore the payload sticker option.

 

My company says anything with a GVWR below 7700 lbs is a "light vehicle" and they have different safety rules for driving on site. Not sure why.

 

The owners manual refers to those as the radiators FOR the intercoolers. Point being you said the two "radiators" are actually intercoolers, I guess semantics at this point. Using the wrong terminology makes one assume you think that they are Air to Air intercoolers which they are not, I was merely pointing that out. The actual "intercoolers" reside on the very top of the engine as they are a Water to Air intercooler setup. This is no different than what the LS500 has been doing for 5yrs now in the V35A. Those "radiators" that you speak of feed coolant to the above mentioned intercoolers as well as the turbos to cool the turbine center section to mitigate high EGT's. Again, Mike Sweers clearly speaks to this coolant system in one of his videos and how it's a fundamental part of proper cooling while towing and turbo longevity.

 

I'm always over during camping season. I'm pretty heavy just driving around. The Tundra is a beast and can handle it. The payload fretting is silly.

 

This is the only thing so far I am not liking about the 2022 Tundra. I'm disappointed in Toyota on this point because this was there chance to jump to the next level, finally modernize their payload.

What I am saying isn't only about me, it's about every potential buyer of the new Tundra, what EVERYONE expects a full size truck/vehicle should be able to do within logical parameters.

I feel these payload numbers are well below what your average truck owner thinks are logical a vehicle of this size can do. Example, if you polled every fullsize truck owner, I bet they think you should be able to carry 4 adults and tow a trailer with 500-600lb tongue weight, and throw some gear in the bed. Even that could put you well over these numbers

Apparently, everyone's solution is ignore the door sticker

 

Toyota is not targeting the "average truck owner". They aren't trying to be the next F-150. They are targeting Taco owners who are thinking of jumping to the big three because they need something larger.

 

Do you hear yourself? Exactly, the Tacoma owners are doubling the door sticker payload currently. The new Tundra will likely be there next vehicle, imagine their surprise when their new Tundra has 100 lbs more payload then their tin can Tacoma.

Do you see the issue here?

 

Yes... I hear myself just fine. I said they need something larger (as in more interior space for a growing family)... not more payload

 

The auto LSD (which can be used in 2wd) kinda sucks to be honest. It supposedly operates in the same way as ATRAC (grabbing a slipping wheel with the brakes), but in practice, it is nothing like ATRAC.

Many have commented on this particular phenomenon with this thread, but I can’t believe how fast this thread moves. It seems the last few pages get ignored quite often. Questions are asked and conjectures are made where info was confirmed just a few hours (and pages) ago.

 

You're literally proving my point, just not doing the math

 

More payload would be great, but perhaps that legendary Toyota reliability has been established and maintained by Toyota keeping the numbers conservative. I don't know, but it's a thought. They might intentionally undersell it to keep that reputation shiny.

That's a really broad assumption. The majority of truck owner expectations are not logical or based in reality. Look how many idiots think that adding air bags magically make it so you can tow more. I mean, if it's not sagging it's not overloaded, right? "Everyone" can expect whatever they want, but that doesn't make it logical or reasonable. FFS, we have people arguing about the shape of the planet.

Again, average truck owners are average people, and your average person doesn't have the knowledge to have a reasonable expectation. For the bold part: and because the masses think it then it should happen, right? Well the masses also think there are lots of things owed them that aren't feasibly executed. Thinking that you (not you specifically) are entitled to something doesn't make it so, and physics still apply as do regulations.

 

That's exactly why I moved up, after owning 4 Tacomas and now my first Tundra.

 

ummm... no... just... no

 

I am thankful that the Tundra isn’t trying to be the F150. The F150 is trying to be all things to all buyers and has the absolute worst reliability ratings of all because of it. Yeah it has features. Cool. Why does it seem people have to constantly take it back to the dealer? Why is it so hard to work on and maintain by yourself? Seems baked into the (lack of) design, to be honest.

Almost NO ONE uses their truck as a truck anymore. I think Toyota gets this. F150 buyers look at the marketing, see the numbers, and say “that’s what I need!” Even though they use their trucks to commute and grab home improvement supplies from Home Depot every once in a while just like everyone else. Every time I hear someone say why they bought an F150, it’s always some version of the capability marketing. They bought the best in class numbers, and almost none of them know that Ford has several class action lawsuits for lying about things like payload and mpg.

 

Pick one 1/2 ton truck below:

1. Subpar reliability with great payload
   Spoiler

   You don't want a Tundra
2. Subpar payload with great reliability
   Spoiler

   You want a Tundra

 

Ohh buttons, I like buttons!

 

I think some of those people are in here:
'Weight does not matter'

I'm the guy trying to establish the earth is round to some flat-earthers of the truckverse

 

So you're argument is that Taco owners who are perfectly happy with the payload capacity of their current vehicle are going to be shocked that moving up to the new Tundra won't allow them to add a little extra human weight?

 

They could have both, just have to buy a SR DC 6’ bed 2WD

 

Payload numbers on a non-commercial half ton aren’t law. People go over all the time. Sometimes WAY over. I initially freaked out about it when I found out I was over GVWR on a trip. I’ve gotten over it. My truck when overweight never once handled or stopped any worse at all than when I’m within my numbers.

Whether any of us agrees with it or not, it is generally understood that the Tacoma and the Tundra can be pushed past their limits.

 

Did it ever occur to you that truck builders have to consider factory payload?
Tacoma owners have to beef up literally everything to handle overloading it so they can carry what is now very common on an offroad build.
They will apparently have to do the same for the new Tundra. I was hoping Toyota would get it and incorporate in this design

 

A TRD OR Tacoma is pushed past its limit with two grown men and a yeti full of beer to get them thru the weekend....lol

 

Who said anything about an offroad build? I was talking about mid-size truck owners who need more room for car seats!

 

Nope both the same actually TRD pro would be heavier

 

I did see a TRD was 1400 with giant moonroof and a Pro hybrid was 1455lbs

 

She also said the Limited she drove had power running boards and the Sport is an off-road trim. So...