2022 Tundra

https://youtu.be/N8PkEJZeAoY
Around 21:35 mark

October 12th?

 

Are you talking about a limited slip that it would kick in all the time in wet snow conditions? If you are actually talking about a locker, why does it really matter if you are putting in in 4wd or using the rear locker, the goal is to get you unstuck or prevent you from getting stuck and in my experience, 4wd is much better at doing that then a locker so I would use 4wd first and then the locker as emergency if 4wd fails. I guess I just don't see a time when I would be using a locker in a high speed situation that I would need to be able to use it in 4 high or 2wd.

 

I know I was just just kidding that’s why I put the lol at the end . Didn’t mean to upset anyone . However you’re talking about a limited slip rear .

 

I had a Karr alarm on my old Chevy 2500 - got to the point where I had to kick/hit the unit under the dash a certain way just to get the truck to start. If I even see the Karr sticker I would opt out of buying it, they wanted a crazy amount to remove it because of the way it was wired into the truck.

 

he said the vented seats work well, now that is a new thing, lol.

 

After seeing the TFL video with a TRD Pro out in the elements in Texas, I am thoroughly convinced that the TRD skid plate is useless, it looks like the plastic nose will be taking the brunt of approach scrapes.
The OEM skid plate on my truck will take the brunt of approach scrapes, protecting the bumper.
That and missing tow hooks, I'm not impressed with the TRD Pro.

I'm thinking since the TRD Pro isn't setup the way I prefer, I am leaning more towards the SR5 TRD Sport, I'd loose the rear locker but I'm not so sure it'll matter on such a "refined" truck. I am beginning to prefer the monochromatic look of the TRD Sport and available longer bed

 

They definitely sell more EB's than Coyotes. Simply because most half ton buyers only look at the brochures - so the EB with more power and better EPA ratings is the buy for them. The ratio of 2.7 EB to 5.0 Coyote would be the interesting one - how many prioritize fuel mileage vs. towing performance.

 

The Limited TRD OR would likely be the closer option. There has to be a way to change out all the chrome and then you get a more comparable interior to the TRD Pro, just not in red. When the Pro first came out the markup was well within reason of the cost to 'build' a Pro from a Limited, but now the markup is so much that building a Platinum/1794 into a Pro makes sense - better interior, same shocks, don't get the stamp (1/4 panel current, tailgate future)

 

I think the TRD off road package is the best value for the Tundra.

I just think the cost of color matching everything would be too expensive, and for me, I feel I could keep my old truck as a trail whore since the Tundra looks too fancy for trail duties.

 

Sounds like oct 12 we will get mpg information.

 

I'm wondering if folks who buy the 2.7EB would be better off with a Ridgeline. Is that 6" of bed really going to make that much difference? If someone is hauling a bunch of stuff all the time, the 2.7 is probably not the right motor for them anyway.

 

Yes, you're right that an e-locker and an auto locker work differently, but you can compare in that the result is you have power to both wheels when needed. Having that power regardless of transaxle position is a great feature. I do forget about the need to design for the lowest common denominator, so your point is well-taken and I can see why they did that. The G80 is a great design for dealing with this. Though, thinking about it a little more as I type this, Toyota could write a control sequence to unlock the axles when binding, excessive slippage is sensed.

 

That'd be an interesting approach.

I'm very bummed that Toyota didn't make AWD available. They've arguably softened-up the Tundra, and they couldn't make AWD available?
My neighbor just got a new, lower-end GMC Sierra and it has AWD. I was really hoping for AWD, it's the only glaring issue with my current truck (I live where AWD is a benefit 6 months a year).

 

Good call. I think the chrome free Sport is the sweet spot. I considered a Pro in 2018 but went with the Sport. If I had to do it again, I'd buy the same truck. Handles and tows great, no chrome, Proish features, and no Pro mark up. My Taco is also a Sport.

You could probably swap out the Sport grill for the Pro grill and get Pro wheels and still be a boatload ahead.

 

I'm sure he considered that but then 1/2 the people wouldn't understand what "median" meant instead of average

 

I just watched this video. The more I see this truck the more I don’t like it. I want to like it, but nothing about it speaks to me. I’m glad I went with my gut last year when I bought my 2020. I’ll keep it for a long time and it may just be the last truck I ever buy.

 

It might just be me, but I don't like the LED bar in the Pro grill.
Good thing I don't like it because that's probably a fairly expensive setup.

With all of the black wheels options for the Tundra, this may be the first time I've ever felt compelled to get aftermarket wheels for a truck, I prefer silver, bronze or gunmetal painted wheels.

 

My Silverado had 2WD/Auto/4Hi/4Lo. I think this was a pretty good setup for a 1/2 ton truck and not overly "soft." I think fulltime AWD would be overly soft. Auto 4wd was really nice in certain rain conditions and most of the snow we have out here. 4 hi for sand, mud, etc.

 

I honestly would be better off with a ridgeline, but I don’t want it…

 

They literally have to hang the nose over the hill like that to see the TRD skid plate.
The plastic schnoz on the Tundra is massive, people will get hung up on it, and when they back-up, is it going to tear off the front bumper cover?

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it'll be excellent off-road IF you get a different front bumper for it.

 

I forgot to point out, on TRD OR models, some of the rear bumper parts are chrome too, so that'd have to be changed too if trying to chrome-delete

 

What color truck are you getting? I want to see a black Sport with gunmetal wheels.

 

I had an Infiniti QX with AWD/2H/4H/4L transfer case, it was awesome.

Nissan has computer controlled clutch based AWD/4WD transfer cases for both their midsize and fullsize SUVs, yet for some reason they are stubborn, just like Toyota, about not making it available on their trucks.
Why is it only the 2 Japanese brands being stingy?

BTW, before someone claims "because reliability" I know for a fact that the Nissan AWD/4WD ATESSA transfer cases are extremely reliable, just as much so as the regular 4WD case. I'm sure it's the same for Toyota

 

I am not a fan of all the “tech”. Why the hell do I (or anyone else) need a 14” screen? I definitely don't need a moon roof the size of the entire roof-I don’t ever open the one I have! And the movement away from tried and trued power plants to turbos and all electric is just garbage in my opinion. All the electrical crap in vehicles these days is mind-boggling, overwhelming, and in my opinion just not needed. Maybe I’m just an old-school grouchy simple kinda guy.

 

I know exactly what your talking about. I had an issue with my 2020 Tundra that continued for over 6 months. I phoned Toyota customer service and realized it was just a call centre. I never got anywhere, just a so sorry that this is happening. I got so fed up I sold the truck back to another dealer for a little more than what I paid. I got a call from Toyota corporate who wanted to discuss the issue I was having. Once I told him I sold the truck back to the dealer he lost interest even though he knew I was considering the new Tundra. I even asked him to follow up with the dealer that took my truck in to make sure a new owner doesn’t end up with the problem. Couldn’t care less. Even though I like the new Tundra I’m having a real hard time giving my money to Toyota.

 

I saw that one at the reveal, it looked like a seafoam green, could be the lighting is weird, I don't know Toyota colors very well.....but thinking about that one...

 

I forget the exact percentage, but I remember reading that 1 out of 4 F150's have the 5.0, and the V6 has 10% share. This means (so far as I am aware) that the vast majority of F150 owners (65%) own either the 2.7L or the 3.5L EcoBoost.

If I had to make a guess, I'd say the percentage might be dead even. Obviously the 2.7L tows less, but it can still tow something like 8500#, and while it makes less HP than the EcoBoost, it makes the same TQ as the 5.0, makes it down lower in the torque band, and gets better gas mileage AND is quicker.

 

Forgive me if I missed it but does the new Tundra have start/stop technology? I suspect it does because they went with the electric steering.

 

From what I understand it does. It can be turned off in the non-hybrid (you have to do it every time you start it) and cannot be turned off in the hybrid, but it should be less noticeable in the hybrid due to the motor assist kicking in before the motor starts

 

Yes, that chin . . . . . We'll see what the approach angle is. I can foresee the plastic bumper cover banging into not only rocks but also the lip of a gully. I can't count how many times I've encountered a short but deep washout that requires good approach angle.