2022 Tundra

I liked the exterior from the start. The interior I'm sure will be just fine. The thing I want to see is specs. Give me some payload, towing, transmission specs, and power numbers dammit!

 

Well I am not a professional car designer but if you think they are going to release a brand new truck design by December of this year and have nothing on paper I think you may be little wrong...

 

maybe it's a refresh 3rd gen???

 

Any idea if it will require premium fuel??

 

Wouldn't that make it even more likely that at least something is down on paper since the 3rd gen has designs, numerous manuals you can literally buy today and a myriad of dealer notices about it? I really do not get your point but I am interested in the 2022 Tundra and accept you may not be.

 

Dude, what are you going on about haha?

 

This is a shot of the 300 series owners manual. 91 octane or higher. Fingers crossed the tundra doesn't high octane fuel.

 

Uh, yeah, requiring premium would go a long way toward cancelling out any potential gains in fuel economy over the current V8.

 

The more I read about issues from other manufacturers, the more certain I am that I will be in a 22 Tundra. Give me an SR5 4x4 Crew Cab that gets 25 highway, 1300 payload, rated to tow 9k, standard safety features including BSM, has freaking skid plates, rear armrest and bucket seat options with mid level trim all on a reliable platform under 50k and I’m good. Rear locker option is just gravy.

 

I feel there’s no way a mid level hybrid Tundra (the only way to achieve 25 mpg’s) is going to be less than 50k. No way in hell…

 

Agreed, Likely not a hybrid for that price. We will see what the TTV6 gets. The Ford 3.5 4x4 is rated at 23 hwy. I’ll take that as well

 

Exactly my thoughts as well. I honestly do not want a truck that requires premium and in my area it's 50-70 cents more per gallon.
If they don't run 87 tune in the tundra at the very least I I hope they allow enough ecu adjustment to run on regular safely even if it's at reduced power. That way I can run cheaper commuting to work and put premium in when I'm towing my TT

 

Heres the honest problem though the Fords aren’t achieving their ratings in the real world. I did much research on this prior to buying my Tundra. It’s closer to 20 which in reality is respectable but it’s not what they are claiming. IMHO turbos are not going to get any 1/2 ton truck to 23 mpg’s or more…

And sorry brother I don’t mean to keep being so negative towards your posts…I swear nothing personal.

 

Toyota is talking about Diesel.

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Well I think Ecoboosts only need 87. I'm hoping that's the case for this. However if you start modifying the boost and engine mapping in this car (if it has a TTV6, which should be much easier to add HP than the NA V8), likely you'll want better knock protection. Should be able to get some pretty sweet power with E85 and a tune.

 

That is interesting, Toyota USA released that video an hour ago, its interesting that they are educating the public about a Diesel engine function since they don't make a diesel in the USA...hmm...could that be the surprise...

 

Wow, potentially big news if they're releasing videos on it. Diesel price premium doesn't make sense for most owners though, unless it's in a HD truck. So...maybe HD Toyota finally?

 

Almost all other manufacturers cut their Diesel engine on ½ ton…

 

Only euro and Asia have Diesel engine cause their diesel price is way cheaper

 

At this point it's really too late in the game to make any significant design changes. There's not enough time to alter any powertrain, body, interior or electronics options. Preproduction testing for all of those systems would have to be either completed or very nearly completed.

The biggest changes they would possibly still have time to attempt are paint color and tire options. Anything more is just too complex with too many dependencies to even think about changing it.

Toyota has to be deep into production setup at this point if they are going to make a Q4 public release timing. Whatever the current designs and options are right now is what they will be for the model year. Any changes/improvements would have to slip to the 2023 model year.

 

And toyota has been known to wait until the other manufacturers make a rash decision and exploit it....just look at midsize trucks, when the other manufacturers were cutting them out...toyota was ramping up production and improving theirs....I am not confident that they have diesel on their minds for the US, but it is interesting that they would take the time to make a video about it. I figured the video was from Toyota in general but I looked and saw it was Toyota USA so that is what made me think...hmmm... There has been rumor or two about 3 power choices for the tundra, 1 is gas 1 is hybrid..1 could be diesel....but like I said, I am not betting the farm on it..

 

Time to start a 2023 Tundra thread.

 

Who need an ancient technology, I think it’s gas, hybrid and ev…

 

I am not sure how I would feel about getting a diesel Tundra if they have no other diesel models and thus a lot of their service departments will have to be trained on this. If I get a first year Tundra in diesel am I going to be waiting at the dealership longer and am I going to be the one going through the teething pains with them?

On the other hand this would be like an ultra Hilux and the Hilux reputation is Legen wait for it dary.

 

If they can come up with a hybrid that has 650 ft lbs of torque, I don't see a reason for a diesel unless there is a HD version.

 

Hell it's a Toyota, only thing the dealer will have to know how to do is oil changes

 

Diesel - electric hybrid

 

No worries. We will see what the numbers are soon enough. MPG always varies a bit between driving style, terrain, and tires. I have always exceeded manufacturer MPGs on highway trips here in Texas where it’s pretty flat. If the Tundra mimics the 3.5 towing MPGs should take the biggest hit. But to be honest I’m done with the 17 highway MPGs I’ve gotten for the last 15 years in my Tundra. So sick of it there was no way I was upgrading to the 5.7 from my 4.7 V8.

 

A diesel hybrid ... now THAT would be a game changer!! However, I doubt Toyota will go diesel in the US. It's a big hassle (like getting an invention patented) to import a diesel. That and all of the giant fines and lawsuits (VW's Dieselgate, the EcoDiesel cheating, even BMW and Mercedes have diesel related legal woes) make it a minefield for any car maker. All of the companies I just mentioned are scaling back or even dropping them completely.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the technology but I loved it more before they reformulated the fuel back in 2006. It used to be a buck a gallon cheaper and you got about 35 to 40 percent more miles per gallon. After that and all of the emissions crap they added to the diesel engines, the fuel now costs MORE than regular (as much as or even higher than premium gas for the most part) and you only get 25 to 30 percent more mpg. Then there's the super expensive oil changes, DEF (diesel exhaust fluid) and higher maintenance costs to deal with on our end. You can't say "yeah but diesels need maintenance less often" anymore because that statement was only true in the days before they added all of that complexity.

 

...and manufacturers know their emissions system designs are shit so any powertrain / bumper-to-bumper warranties exclude those systems after 30k miles coughNissanTitanXDcough, which is basically break-in on most diesel engines