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1st Gen. Lunch Table - General Discussion

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by NUDRAT, Jan 18, 2020.

  1. May 30, 2021 at 6:10 AM
    FirstGenVol

    FirstGenVol Brake Czar

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    My truck still has that false ABS activation under 5 mph that I've been unable to solve. Removing ABS all together might solve 2 problems. I just don't know how I'd re-work the hard lines and it sounds like a pain. I'm sure my insurance wouldn't approve either.
     
  2. May 30, 2021 at 6:36 AM
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  3. May 30, 2021 at 6:37 AM
    FirstGenVol

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    We've had this area in the stairs we couldn't reach to paint no matter how I positioned the ladder. Until yesterday....

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  4. May 30, 2021 at 6:39 AM
    Darkness

    Darkness Allergic to white

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    Whats all this about?
     
  5. May 30, 2021 at 6:41 AM
    FrenchToasty

    FrenchToasty The Desert rat, 6 lug enthusiast

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    He or someone had mention not being alone or aliens. And earlier I had mentioned xfiles and he then replied with a sweet xfiles gif
     
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  6. May 30, 2021 at 6:44 AM
    Darkness

    Darkness Allergic to white

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    Did it involve Scully? Now I gotta go look
     
  7. May 30, 2021 at 6:45 AM
    Professional Hand Model

    Professional Hand Model A.K.A ‘Golden Hands’

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    1) Seems like you are unwilling to solve your problem. Last I remember, you replaced a sensor with Aftermarket (went cheapo). My guess is you yanked some wires and jacked things up in addition to needing an OEM Sensor. Another guess is you are getting air into your system somewhere from something you Mangled. Your system is compromised somewhere.

    2) Removing ABS will not solve your problem(s).

    3) You do not possess the skills to rework your brake lines so re-circle back to the time under the wheel well where you pulled or Mangled a wire or kinked a line. No reason you should still be having problems. Also, any air in your line is dangerous to you and others. I would not be able to leave the driveway with even two bubbles in my line without it telling me at the pedal.

    4) The under 5mph activation is a dangerous condition for stopping. I know because the 4WPlace ‘forgot’ to hook a sensor up or something after my front end rebuild. When I pulled out of the lot the Brakes were mush and the sensor was going ratatat tat under 5. Turned around and they did something to restore it quickly. Said it was a loose sensor. My ass was Chapped because they said they test drove it first and that was a lie. Could have been ugly if I wasn’t careful.

    5) Time to figure this out bud or pay someone to do so. No reason to let this linger this long.
     
  8. May 30, 2021 at 6:54 AM
    BubbaW

    BubbaW Been Real

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    :popcorn:

     
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  9. May 30, 2021 at 6:55 AM
    FrenchToasty

    FrenchToasty The Desert rat, 6 lug enthusiast

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    I wish
     
  10. May 30, 2021 at 7:06 AM
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  11. May 30, 2021 at 7:32 AM
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    I think I'm going to have to pay someone to chase down what I believe to be an exhaust leak. I can't find it for the life of me. Once I hit 1500rpm, I get this annoying burble. Definitely sounds like it's coming from up front, but the old soapy water trick, reverse pressure with a shop vac trick ain't showing anything.
     
  12. May 30, 2021 at 7:51 AM
    Professional Hand Model

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    Might be time to do ‘The Dream Killer’ (Headers). :annoyed::rofl:
     
  13. May 30, 2021 at 7:56 AM
    Outbound

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    Thought about it but haven't done much research on them. Dunno what's available in Canaderp or how much it'll cost me.
     
  14. May 30, 2021 at 8:02 AM
    Professional Hand Model

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    I’m not sure what things cost up there, but in terms of the Job its Gnarly.

    I have no problems and did Shorties with slight boost in Torque. Not worth the effort but since the job is over and done I am pleased. Considering if I did have a leak, then not sure investigating it other than to know its a leak is about all you can do. Not sure how one could ‘fix’ a leak without Major Work and at that point must redo it all.

    I suppose one could just tighten the Studs, but thats risky and may set up other problems.
     
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  15. May 30, 2021 at 8:02 AM
    KarmaKannon

    KarmaKannon Master of None

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    When I unplugged my front abs sensors my abs stopped working and my light started working. If you don't want abs, pull the sensor connectors and the abs bulb. It shouldn't work then.
    It might stop working with as little as one sensor disconnected. I don't know. Mine just doesn't work at all with the two front sensors gone.
     
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  16. May 30, 2021 at 8:05 AM
    Professional Hand Model

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    Yeah. We’ve covered all the bases already. I thought I read the other day, he said he had a couple air bubbles that he bled out which I think is the 8th time in a year he has bled his brakes. He seems to have two problems ongoing.
     
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  17. May 30, 2021 at 8:07 AM
    KarmaKannon

    KarmaKannon Master of None

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    I have an exhaust tick that I think is coming from the manifolds. I think I remember @empty_lord mentioning it's often the gasket. With that much work, I don't know that I wouldn't just do headers. It's all soul sucking and dream demolishing anyway.
     
  18. May 30, 2021 at 8:09 AM
    FirstGenVol

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    This is true. I tried 2 different aftermarket sensors with good reviews and neither helped. I didn't go further because our resident Toyota mechanic told me it was likely an issue with my tone ring. I could spend $200 on a OEM sensor that doesn't help. It largely hasn't been an issue because I've been driving around with both ABS fuses pulled. The only reason I have them installed right now is to try and purge any air from that ABS module.



    I'm sorry to say but you are wrong about this. You are making much speculation without having witnessed it. Mostly, it's just a noise and slight pulsing of the brakes. Annoying, but not dangerous in any way. Since many of these trucks came without ABS, I don't see it as a safety issue if I have the fuses pulled.

    I wear the mangler badge with honor. But as for the problem at hand, I don't believe that's the case this time. The fact that I can pump the pedal and build pressure, leads me to believe there is something else going on. If it were a constant leak or problem with something I've mangled, say where a line connect to a caliper, I don't think I'd have any pressure.

    As for paying someone, I would be perfectly fine doing that and I've actually spoken to 3 different shops to discuss it. All of them said that I've already attempted everything they could think of. Some of the best tips I got recently came from @NUDRAT about air being in the ABS in his truck and how his mechanic got it out. I think he's onto something. Darkness has been saying this to me for a while too.

    Your reply wasn't really a sincere attempt to help unlike many of the other members who have taken time to private message me and troubleshoot. I'm not really sure what I've done to piss you off the past 6 months but it would be nice if we could move on. This is the 2nd time in the past few months where you've gone from ignoring me to sending me a snarky reply.
     
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  19. May 30, 2021 at 8:10 AM
    Professional Hand Model

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    @Outbound do the Taylor Cable/Percy Gaskets for the Manifold and Remflex at the Collectors. Many here recco’d them and glad to have used.
     
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  20. May 30, 2021 at 8:13 AM
    KarmaKannon

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    Tag header gasket

    For later pain and pleasure
     
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  21. May 30, 2021 at 8:14 AM
    FirstGenVol

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    Same here, I've had the fuses pulled for a few years now which totally de-activates the system. The issue I'm starting to suspect is that there is still air in there that is getting compressed when I pump the pedal. A few months ago I found some gravel and hit the brakes many times to activate ABS. This actually made the pedal feel a lot better for a little while before returning to normal. @NUDRAT was saying his truck had the exact same issue and his mechanic fixed it by immediately bleeding the system after activating ABS. He was saying he thinks it frees up the air bubbles temporarily before they return to their hiding place. That's what I'm going to try next. I was only curious about removing it all together because I know a lot of our trucks shipped without ABS, and it might be worth a try. PHM is right though that I may not have the skills to mess with the hard lines. Seems like a pain.
     
  22. May 30, 2021 at 8:20 AM
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    It's certainly not a job I'll tackle myself. It's one of those things where I throw money at the problem to make it go away. I think headers may be the way to go if there is a manifold leak.
     
  23. May 30, 2021 at 8:24 AM
    empty_lord

    empty_lord They see me rollin'

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    I think I have a brand new sensor you can have for like $50 if you want. I actually have multiple I think. I have to double check... I keep spares for my shit lol

    but I would still inspect the tone ring
     
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  24. May 30, 2021 at 8:25 AM
    empty_lord

    empty_lord They see me rollin'

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    Or if you plan on being near Chicago I can take a look one day.
     
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  25. May 30, 2021 at 8:36 AM
    FirstGenVol

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    If you have a driver side front sensor I'll gladly buy it. That's very generous.

    I did inspect the tone ring recently and didn't see any signs of damage. It wasn't even dirty in there. I blew it out the best I could just in case.
     
  26. May 30, 2021 at 8:39 AM
    Professional Hand Model

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    I’ve been nothing but straight up sincere with you. No need to PM you as others more expert than myself have chimed in and I’ve learned from it. As for other stuff, I’ve help you tremendously via PM’s. Even to the point of frustration because you lack comprehension. :thumbsup:

    Reason I’ve avoided your posts lately is because you are a complainer. Nothing wrong with complaining about a new problem, but when its an ongoing self imposed one which you open yourself up to Constructive Criticism on an open board such as this you bring it upon yourself. Man up and fix your shtuff and stop playing a victim. Fix the problem! :rofl:
     
  27. May 30, 2021 at 8:39 AM
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    empty_lord They see me rollin'

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    I’ll dig through my shit. They’re leftovers from frame replacements that accidentally got double ordered
     
  28. May 30, 2021 at 8:52 AM
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    Nice gesture. Hopefully this is the cure!
     
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  29. May 30, 2021 at 10:15 AM
    FirstGenVol

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    And I can recall you trying to argue with us that bleeding the brakes wasn't necessary and that orange coolant was fine in our trucks. You've come a long way.

    I may be a mangler and a compliner but at least I'm not an asshole. When you bragged about getting into an argument with a dealership employee over wearing a mask, it really solidified for me how you are in your personal life.

    The fact is that you've gotten in more arguments with other members than anyone here. Bubbles, Marbles, and many others. After a while it's clear who the problem is.

    And while you have helped me a lot over the years, it doesn't excuse being a dick when I haven't done anything to you.
     
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  30. May 30, 2021 at 10:54 AM
    Professional Hand Model

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    Can you repost the context of my Orange Coolant comment? Just curious. Per the brake bleeding I openly admitted being ignorant on the issue going into it and corrected my way.

    If you notice a pattern, which clearly you seem to be able to thankfully, you’ll notice mostly (not always) its not me that starts the shit. Not saying I am perfect, but I do back my stuff up and when challenged and when wrong will openly admit and/or give credit. I do some razzing, surely in good nature and can handle it back pretty well.

    Your ad hominem attacks on me don’t help you one bit and belies a weakness in your argument and the underlying problem which is you and your brakes. Fix them dude! Your wife said she is tired of them, too.

    Your convoluted mask comment reveals another lack of comprehension which has nothing to do with you and your brake problem. I’d say you are far more dangerous driving (for 6 months?) with air in your brakes and ABS activation than someone 20 feet from me who isn’t sick or has a fever. Your logic is twisted. You truly lack even more comprehension than initially thought. Everyone here is tired of your self imposed brake problem.

    I’ll go back to ignoring you now which worked well for 6 months. Tried to help you earlier, but you took it personally. I’ll repost it again as I stand by it. Post #16632. No attacks just facts.

    1) Seems like you are unwilling to solve your problem. Last I remember, you replaced a sensor with Aftermarket (went cheapo). My guess is you yanked some wires and jacked things up in addition to needing an OEM Sensor. Another guess is you are getting air into your system somewhere from something you Mangled. Your system is compromised somewhere.

    2) Removing ABS will not solve your problem(s).

    3) You do not possess the skills to rework your brake lines so re-circle back to the time under the wheel well where you pulled or Mangled a wire or kinked a line. No reason you should still be having problems. Also, any air in your line is dangerous to you and others. I would not be able to leave the driveway with even two bubbles in my line without it telling me at the pedal.

    4) The under 5mph activation is a dangerous condition for stopping. I know because the 4WPlace ‘forgot’ to hook a sensor up or something after my front end rebuild. When I pulled out of the lot the Brakes were mush and the sensor was going ratatat tat under 5. Turned around and they did something to restore it quickly. Said it was a loose sensor. My ass was Chapped because they said they test drove it first and that was a lie. Could have been ugly if I wasn’t careful.

    5) Time to figure this out bud or pay someone to do so. No reason to let this linger this long.
     

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