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Getting a new tire after a blowout..

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by jvt3, Apr 8, 2021.

  1. Apr 8, 2021 at 5:35 PM
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    jvt3

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    One of my fairly new original tires (Bridgestone Dueler H/T...) blew out on the highway...all of them are at 16000 miles....
    this was a rear tire. I'm using the spare right now, and the dead tire is sitting (hanging) in the spare area while
    I figure out what to do with it......probably not pluggable
    with that hole a little too close to the edge. I know nothing about tires, but automatically assumed I should replace it with
    the same exact tire (brand, model, etc).. Is that really recommended? That's my plan so far. I don't think there's any reason
    to have to replace any of the others, since they're only at about 16000 miles.

    I'm due soon for a tire rotation at the dealer (free) (it's been about 6000 miles), and I plan to get a new tire before that.
    Are there any recommendations on where this new tire should be placed before the rotation.....I'll probably do the rotation
    a few hundred miles after getting the new tire. Should I just put in the same place the blownout one was?

    I'm wondering if I should just get the tire at the dealer at the time I
    go for a rotation, since I assume they have it in stock (compared with having to order it at a non-dealership place and waiting
    for it...or using tirerack, etc.)...I know the dealership would charge more, but maybe not much more.

    I'll say more about this "blow out" later.....it was pretty unusual...some of the the rubber ended up coming off the rim
    just as I pulled off the highway...that probably weakened the structure of the tire so not worth trying to plug regardless
    of where the hole is...Luckily my rim is ok even with the rubber coming off. (very unusual?)

    So, I guess the questions are: Get the same exact tire? Where should it go?...assuming i'll be rotating all of them in a
    few weeks....Thanks.
     
  2. Apr 8, 2021 at 5:39 PM
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    Duelers are shit... I lived in a rural area and I would constantly had to plug them tires... might as well be the equivalent of a porcupine after 6 months.. replace in pairs if you will keep a pair.
     
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    Like @blackdemon_tt said, you generally need to replace tires in pairs. This is to keep sizing true on each axle. It may not seem like much, but 16,000 miles has worn some of the rubber off your old tires, and a new tire will actually be slightly larger. Running one larger tire on an axle isn't good and can lead to excessive wear on tires and other components.

    Generally, the stock tires that come on any vehicle are a little lower grade than your average tire. Replacing all of them isn't a bad idea, but if you are unwilling or unable to do that, then you should replace two tires on the same axle at a minimum. If your vehicle is 4WD it's a good idea to keep all 4 tires the same.
     
  4. Apr 9, 2021 at 9:17 AM
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    Gracias....Yeah, I just did a little googling and .....this is such basic stuff I had forgotten about....replacing in pairs, etc..
    But I never had to think about this stuff with a toyota truck.

    Let's see: Yes, it's 4x4, but I never use it (except to "exercise" it 10 mi./month)...so I assume that's not a reason (???)
    to get 4 new tires (of course, in the future I may use it, but .who knows)....

    Wow, I hope I'm not hurting the axle/components/etc. by riding on this spare...I've put around 400 miles on it
    since the blowout, 'cause I"m travelling alot and not yet in a place to get new tires....
    I didn't realize that could be bad (new tires being slightly larger than older ones). ???????????

    But isn't that the same issue when you have some tires inflated a little
    differently than others...I often see a variation of a few pounds between my 4 tires....I never thought that
    could stress out the axles/components.

    I can't imagine buying 4 new tires though...but I see that 2 is necessary. Then again, I looked at some toyota dealers
    websites) and (like other tires shops) they often sell 4 for price of 3....so.....that may be the way to go.

    And the toyota dealers prices were only a little higher than tirerack.com......hmmmm.....

    p.s. I think another reason to stick with my current brand (bridgestone)...is because I already have a spare
    (currently using)..which seems like the same exact tire......?? Or is that wrong....
     
  5. Apr 9, 2021 at 9:23 AM
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    Its a full size spare, not going to create a whole world of difference as I'm sure slight weight differences are included in the Engineering sorcery.. Pick a better bridgestone A/T pair, and then cycle them forward and replace the rears again. If you have costco check them out as well... May pay off your card faster, if you have that option.
    Toyota doesn't make tires, nor batteries... if they did, we'd all probably be rocking 20 year old tires with minimum wear... LOL...
     
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    can tire shops not 'shave down' the one new one to replicate the tread depth of the others? or did i dream that??
     
  7. Apr 9, 2021 at 11:21 AM
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    I wants some of that parmesan cheese you smoking... LOL
     
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  9. Apr 9, 2021 at 11:26 AM
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    Holly mother of God, I've learned something new today.... Thank you...
    I've seen them being used on the GT racing series, but figured it would be something worth more than some houses out here in the Bay area.. LOL... I'll take it back though.
     
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    their website isn't super clear on how to order one, but i just did the live-chat, and the guy confirmed at the 'review your order' stage, you scroll way to the bottom and see a section called "fitment details", and you could say "please shave to XX/32nds". It will add $25-30 to the order
     
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  11. Apr 9, 2021 at 8:41 PM
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    I just learned some things today when websurfing and also visiting a few tire shops. First, tire shaving is VERY common..it's discussed all over the web (and used).
    I may look into doing that...but even if i don't....
    I may not have to replace two tires....it (obviously) comes down to the depth measurements....that's what I have to do next. The tire shops I visited didn't recommend replacing more than the one bad tire (saying "16000 miles isn't much).. (even though they "could" try to sell me more)....but tomorrow I'm sure i'll visit one or two that will say i need 2 new tires....It will depend on the measurements....

    Yes, I know toyota doesn't "make" tires....I was comparing (above) the price for my exact tire(s) at the toyota dealer vs. tirerack.

    I just realized something else today....(maybe I'll ask this on the "wheels" subforum)...Don't you all rotate your full-size spare? A tire shop
    today reminded me i should be doing that....but i forgot all about that (and my 2 free dealer rotations never did it). And if people are
    doing that, that's exactly the situation we're discussing.....(having 1 new tire mixed in with older ones)....

    I'm also realizing (as I said in my previous post) that differing tire pressures is probably just as much a problem as differing tire
    tread-depths....and I always have a a pound or 2 difference between tires....
     
  12. Apr 10, 2021 at 5:00 AM
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    I don't really think tire pressure would cause a problem, tire circumference is the important factor. As far as rotating the spare tire into the mix, I would agree that would be preferable to help keep tire wear even for all five tires, but I couldn't mix in one black steel wheel with the four off road wheels on my truck. Just not happening!
     
  13. Apr 10, 2021 at 1:54 PM
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    Tried to tell from some of your previous posts what year/model this was and assume it's a 2019 something ?
    If so, have you considered checking with dealer where you bought. Was in the same situation with wifes 2017 Highlander. Dealer replaced for free after 1 1/2. I would check my tire warranty paperwork received at veh purchase or simply ask dealer !
     

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