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Discussion in '2nd Gen Tundras (2007-2013)' started by PaulB84, Mar 25, 2021.

  1. Mar 25, 2021 at 2:45 PM
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    PaulB84

    PaulB84 [OP] On the spectrum

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    What would you give $ wise for a southern but not flooded 100% rust free dealer maintained 1 owner 2011 TRD SR5 4x4 double cab 6.5' bed 5.7L 6 speed metallic grey with 180k and Leer 100XQ?

    Truck is immaculate. New tires. Secondary air pump replaced preventatively at dealership per the old man. Service history like that. Far as I can tell it's a unicorn.

    Edited to add a more accurate description of the truck
     
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    I can't help with the price as I am happy with my truck and values have gone wild over the last year. Some info you should include would be cab and bed configuration, engine, and color. That will get you more accurate responses.
     
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  4. Mar 25, 2021 at 3:31 PM
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    Man I suck lol. 4x4 of course for this Michigan boy
     
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    I'd pay whatever NADA says or what the bank would loan on it.
     
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  6. Mar 25, 2021 at 4:32 PM
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    Normally I would agree 1000%. I don't pay over list period, and usually try and find an absolute steal. But this truck, in Michigan, in 2021 is just a pain to shop lol. Good ones are gone in hours sometimes. The cap is what I'm having trouble valuing. I'm gonna end up paying a few hundred over KBB average for this one.
     
  7. Mar 25, 2021 at 4:41 PM
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    Hard to say right now I guess because prices are all jacked up. I briefly looked the other day just because I’ve seen a few threads on here and I was absolutely shocked by what they said the trucks were listed for. But I mean it’s all subjective I suppose. Is it a private sale?
     
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    Yes. Private seller
     
  9. Mar 25, 2021 at 4:45 PM
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    I am fairly sure that the cap is worth nothing.
    In fact it will cost you money to get it removed and taken away.
    Accessories and mods usually have no appraised value to me.
     
  10. Mar 25, 2021 at 4:49 PM
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    Hmmm for a bad stereo job or smoked taillights I would agree....but I see places that sell nothing but used caps and this one appears to be very high quality
     
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    Yeah I agree with ezdog. But in a private sale it might change a thing or two if the particular buyer is enticed by the cap, they aren’t cheap and can be very hard to find used.

    So I guess you already said it yourself, Go by the book and if you feel it’s worth it to pay a little extra for the convenience of already having the particular cap you want on the truck, go for it.
     
  12. Mar 25, 2021 at 5:16 PM
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    But as the buyer it does you no good to act like it is an enticement does it?
    Its a high mile truck and I would try to buy it as such.
     
  13. Mar 25, 2021 at 5:21 PM
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    Yeah I agree 100%. I would as well
     
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    That would be a $15000 truck at a dealer, but cash at a private sale is a different story.

    Sounds like its checking all the boxes for you. Is it worth it to you to pay an extra $2-3000 to get what you want vs something not quite what you want? That's also rust free and from the original owner?

    There is a point where it's too much and you have to say no. I think you could find other trucks in that configuration down south without too much trouble, but the hard part is shopping from a thousand miles away.



    I also would not put any value on the cap. Most people would remove it anyway. I dont usually add value for any modifications. If anything it would be the opposite.
     
  15. Mar 25, 2021 at 6:30 PM
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    I just paid high retail for my 2008 1 owner. But it checked my boxes all the way to the color and I thought at 103k miles, I was getting low miles too. At over 150k, you’re venturing into not low mileage vehicle any more. GL!!
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  16. Mar 25, 2021 at 8:17 PM
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    Brass tacks, I'd have to give $15k cash for it.

    Is it high? Yes.

    I've been checking FB, CL, iseecars and autotrader multiple times daily for a few months now. At this point a fair price is a redflag and a deal is a scam or a mislist (4.6 not 5.7, 2WD not 4 etc)
     
  17. Mar 26, 2021 at 4:27 AM
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    Pay the 50 or 100 bucks for several carfax. Find similar (year, miles, trim) vehicles you would want on carfax or car gurus. Run the carfax to get an idea if how much of a unicorn this truck really is. Then you will know the going price at least at dealers.
    With reopening and stimulus prices at least in the near term will only go up.
     
  18. Mar 26, 2021 at 5:18 AM
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    I did this. This is the 5th tundra I've carfax'd.

    Great advice tho
     
  19. Mar 26, 2021 at 5:48 AM
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    A used 100xq brings a quick $1500 here in CO. Sounds like you’ve found the one for you. I’d buy it and be done.
     
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    The current seller offered to take it off the truck and sell for 14 because he has a buddy who wants to buy it for $1500 lol

    hence my confusion when some people seem to think the cap isn't worth much etc. I didn't want to get stuck with something that I thought was sellable but actually isn't
     
  21. Mar 26, 2021 at 5:57 AM
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    I’ve paid $1000 for a used one that needed work and just paid $3200 for a new one. They’re not worth anything to people who don’t need them.
     
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    You missed my point entirely then.
    You also clearly were going to buy the truck before ever asking about it here and why else would you not post the price here from the start?

    There is nothing wrong with any of this but maybe instead of toying with us to make yourself feel better about the deal you should ask yourself if it is really the right one for you?

    I know in my world whenever I do this the next day the one that I really wanted magically comes up for sale!?
    Want to make God laugh?
    Tell him you have a plan!
     
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    I certainly didn't mean a toy with anybody, I like to keep my cards close to the chest I don't tell people a number and then ask if it's correct I like to hear what their objective number would be pulled out of thin air.

    And you could not be more right as last night at 2:00 in the morning a crewmax 2012 rock warrior with 92,000 was listed for 17 and 1/2 k in Chicago and now I have a real ugly decision

    The only thing I want out of this vehicle is a reliable truck. I'll work around certain features and options that I might wish I had and maybe my next one will but reliability, reliability, service history, reliability.

    The one in Chicago is one owner with a very clean Carfax as well for anybody wondering. So clean so cheap and such low miles that I'm suspicious as hell
     
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    Funny how that works isnt it?

    I was serious too it always seems to work that way in my world.

    I bought mine in Chicago last year right before the 'Rona took hold from a Toyota Dealer and it had been their Lot Truck so I assumed that it might be a little dinged up but essentially a solid truck maintained by the dealer/owner for free and with only 40K miles that it still had to be pretty nice.
    It is a 5 hour drive for me and so I talked to several people at the dealer and had a friend who runs another Toyota store run a deep inside dealer check for records on the truck and decided I had to get in the car and bring it back no matter what.

    I made a trade-in deal over the phone and put a small deposit on the truck hoping they would not sell it before I got there.

    Talk about Blind Faith.

    But I am also ALWAYS fully prepared to turn around and drive back if they dick me around too much in the process which is the only thing that we can do to keep the seller honest in the end.

    And yes of course they pushed me as far as they possibly could as I expected from a Stealership and it is my own fault for thinking it could be any other way.
    So I did walk/storm out and went and had Dinner and waited........

    Then when they called me back apologizing profusely and blaming the new guy,my original salesman who incidentally was the only one not lying like a dog the whole time I felt like I had the thing back under control and I waited the whole next day while they fixed everything that needed it and wrote it up for the original agreed to terms and I drove away in the new truck.

    I still got a great deal and the truck is exactly what I had hoped and needed it to be,it is all part of the game so play it as well as you can!

    And in Chicago it will have Rust period.
     
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    Copy all that. And I completely agree with being willing to spend eight hours in the car for nothing if I have to. A little meditation never hurt anyone
     
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    Looking for new trucks is so exhausting but so exciting haha. You are doing it the right way. Good luck man
     
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    Sorry for dragging everyone thru my process.

    Im ditching both of these trucks, selling a couple things and increasing the budget. I gotta get down closer to 100k miles, and the wife really wants a crewmax cause she's smarter than me. And makes me queasy to pay that much for that many miles, Tundra or not.
     
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    No worries about dragging anyone through anything. Nobody is required to participate; it's all voluntary.

    The struggle with used Tundras is that they hold their value so well that it feels like you are getting shafted on mileage compared to any other truck. I was originally looking at Tundras with 60k or less miles, but the savings over a new truck were so minimal that I just sucked it up and went new. You'll see similar value retention in diesel trucks, and it makes buying anything with less than 6 figure mileage seem pointless.

    The engines in the Tundra are solid so long as maintenance has been kept up on. There are a few million mile trucks out there, but that's anecdotal. The real proof is when you start digging and see that it's not uncommon for any of the V8s in the Tundras to see 300K-500K miles. You do pay for that reliability, but you are also getting what you pay for if you plan to keep the truck forever. If you only plan to have the truck for 3-5 years and rotate it out, you might be better served with a cheaper truck rotation than a Tundra one.
     
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    Very well said. I do plan on keeping this around for the long haul.


    Someone braver than me should snap this up. I'm sure I'll regret it but there are a few things that bother me. Chrome on the RW? Comes up as a GRD on toyota website I think he said oklahoma edition. I ran carfax and it's clear. Too hard to get down there today during covid with new baby sucks....

    The kid bought a $62,000 brand new Dodge ram and is regretting it every second and desperate to make payments. I offered 17k and he said yes.
     
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    FWIW......just purchased an '07, 5.7L, crew, 4x4, 71K, new tires, full maint record, no rust, always garaged, one owner (who I knew), $12,500.00. Price seemed to be in the ball park of similar condition trucks I had looked at (although not a lot available). Painted to match, hard bed cover, had no affect on the price.
     
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