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Brake switch, stuck in park, 10+ issues

Discussion in '2nd Gen Tundras (2007-2013)' started by Stephenwolfdurfee, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. Mar 16, 2021 at 9:14 PM
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    Stephenwolfdurfee

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    Please help me with my 2008 Tundra. Stuck in park, no turn, tail or brake lights. No power seat,mirrors or windows. No heat or air. Cant switch from 4×4 to 4×2. No wipers. No heated mirrors. No charge from alternator. No stereo.no speedometer. Abs light on. Parking brake light on. Check engine light on. :( I'm at a loss. Please help a brother out. Thanks
     
  2. Mar 16, 2021 at 9:19 PM
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    That's a lot of problems, did they all occur at the same time? was it fine before this?
     
  3. Mar 16, 2021 at 9:22 PM
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    Yes it was fine. Went to dinner, drove home. Came out to this next day. I was able to make it all go away for a short time when I hooked my jump starter box up to the cig lighter .
     
  4. Mar 16, 2021 at 9:27 PM
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    Yes it was fine. Went to dinner, drove home. Came out to this next day. I was able to make it all go away for a short time when I hooked my jump starter box up to the cig lighter
     
  5. Mar 16, 2021 at 9:29 PM
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    Have you looked under the hood to see if you have any rodent damage to the wires? This seems to be a very common problem to our trucks lately.
     
  6. Mar 16, 2021 at 10:11 PM
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    I have and don't see anything. All fuses are good. I'm not sure if all the problems were here when I realized the gear shifter would not shift. I had a buddy come by he started pulling my dash apart and what not then showed me how to push on the little button to the left of shifter to get to go out of park. That is when i started noticing everything else so not sure if my friend yanked something apart or it was caused by brake switch. It seems to me my whole fuse board incab is not getting power at start up. Could that cause all this and what causes that if so an

    ??
     
  7. Mar 16, 2021 at 10:11 PM
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    I have and don't see anything. All fuses are good. I'm not sure if all the problems were here when I realized the gear shifter would not shift. I had a buddy come by he started pulling my dash apart and what not then showed me how to push on the little button to the left of shifter to get to go out of park. That is when i started noticing everything else so not sure if my friend yanked something apart or it was caused by brake switch. It seems to me my whole fuse board incab is not getting power at start up. Could that cause all this and what causes that if so an
     
  8. Mar 16, 2021 at 10:26 PM
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    To be completely honest, not sure anyone here, including myself can diagnose your problem with your friend just pulling the dash apart. It could be almost anything now.
     
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    Is this for real :confused:
     
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    I know maybe stupid question...but did your friend plug all the harnesses back into the correct locations when put the dash back in? That's a lot of dash related issues. Or maybe something shorted out/fried when you hooked up the jump box into your cig lighter.

    If the original problem, was just being stuck in park. I'm willing to bet it was just the brake switch. I had similar issue on my 08, it was stuck in park and no brake lights. I replaced brake switch and no other issues.
     
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    I remember seeing a thread like this just the other day can’t seem to find it
    Anyway I believe the problem was a main/master fuse in the engine bay
     
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    Did you atleast try to pull codes??? Sometimes issues like these show up when something vital was unplugged while the battery was still connected...
     
  13. Mar 17, 2021 at 12:41 AM
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    I have and don't see anything. All fuses are good. I'm not sure if all the problems were here when I realized the gear shifter would not shift. I had a buddy come by he started pulling my dash apart and what not then showed me how to push on the little button to the left of shifter to get to go out of park. That is when i started noticing everything else so not sure if my friend yanked something apart or it was caused by brake switch. It seems to me my whole fuse board incab is not getting power at start up. Could that cause all this and what causes that if so an
     
  14. Mar 17, 2021 at 12:47 AM
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    I have seen alot of similar posts problem is I haven't seen one get solved completely on purpose. Dealerships have thrown parts at them it seems like
     
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    When you say master fuse what does that mean sir?
     
  16. Mar 17, 2021 at 1:09 AM
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    It is my understanding that by overriding the brake switch the system is not fooled and goes no further with ecm power. . It still thinks the truck is in park and never sent the corresponding demands that a truck needs to drive and operate correctly. I'm trying to word that the best I can. Sorry I'm just a guy that cant afford to pay a mechanic and also enjoy the win once I can, with help get to the bottom of things. So if I replace the switch the rest of the problems fall back in to order. Am I wY off or what do you think. I am very sure everything in plugged in correctly . I am well versed in this dash. I have a very nice aftermarket stereo system that has caused me to take apart and replace dash many times as I upgraded. I have the kenwood DNX775S INSTALLED WITH 4 directional camereas, all speakers replaced and upgraded being driven by a 750watt kenwood 4 channel amp, a competition 2000w 15" sub driven by a 700w Alpine amp I've upgraded all positive cables and ground wires got rid of all the paint underneath all the original grounds, upgraded the alternator but here is where I don't know if I am screwing things up. Can I run a deep cycle marine battery in a this normal charging system or do I have to change something or not do it at all? I'm over my head but ain't scared to learn. Thank you guys for helping and all but one person being cool . Sorry mr. " is this for real" guy. Have a good life . I apologize not being born with a Toyota shoved up my...... peace
     
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    Try a new battery. Walmart has a group 24 battery for 50 bucks..
     
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    So are saying don't use a deep cycle battery at all?. Thank you sir
     
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    I've never used a deep cell in my truck, just a regular battery.

    edit: I'm not a battery guru.
     
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    Okay 2 things. First, if you have no brakes lights your truck will not shift out of gear cause the park neutral switch grounds on that circuit. Second, if you jumped your vehicle the wrong way or accidently caused a huge voltage spike in the wrong area it is very likely that the main 120 amp fuse is blown and that will definitely cause it to not start. That or the ECM could've gotten fried. I've seen some crazy things happen with people plugging in stuff to the cigarette lighter that they really shouldn't have as well. I'd start by making sure the fuse is okay. After that make sure your brake switch is good. Then you need to do a hard reset on the battery. Disconnect the negative battery cable and run a jumper wire from the negative battery cable terminal to the positive battery cable terminal (while its still connected) and leave it for 10 minutes. This will drain all the capacitors in the computer and basically do a factory reset and have it run as if it just rolled off the assembly line
     
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    Don't, touch the negative battery cable to the positive terminal of the battery while its hooked up.

    I believe he means , while both are disconnected from the battery touch the two cable leads together. Not the battery posts.

    Other wise bad things can happen.

    AGM batteries are fine in Tundra.

    Have no idea why a jump box would power off a cig lighter the wires are to small in that circuit to carry the amps.

    Check.
    Main fuse
    Check brake switch
    Check Transmission range switch , will be near gear selector.

    Those off hand should be the culprit.

    But what make a list of

    What doesnt work

    What lights are on dash and "solid , flashing?"

    That right there will give a valuable trouble code.
     
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    Thank you. I tracked the problem down to the main power to fuse box from battery was loose. Tightened it, cleaned up the whole box and surrounding area, secured all wires, took all frame grounds around the battery side of truck off sanded the paint off, replacing the bolts, took battery out, cleaned up all the painted surface, played down a rubberized coating, reinstalled battery and put a blue silicone over all hot connections and body grounds. Now my 4wheel lo light is on,check engine and vac lights. Code said something was stuck closed:( pretty sure its simple. Any thoughts. Oh yeah I replaced the brake light switch . It was all but broken
     

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