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2022 Tundra

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by 0.S.T., Apr 6, 2020.

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Who has actually used the front tow hooks?

  1. Never

    204 vote(s)
    52.6%
  2. 1-5 times

    111 vote(s)
    28.6%
  3. More than 5 times

    45 vote(s)
    11.6%
  4. Almost daily

    7 vote(s)
    1.8%
  5. I'm an off-roader and definitely need it.

    28 vote(s)
    7.2%
  6. I mall crawl

    17 vote(s)
    4.4%
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  1. Feb 21, 2021 at 9:57 AM
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    Warreng

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    i like it haha
     
  2. Feb 21, 2021 at 10:04 AM
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    Warreng

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    Nice!
    the polaris 850 is a beast, more power the the doo for sure.
     
  3. Feb 21, 2021 at 1:10 PM
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    OVTune

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    My CM 2016 Tundra weighs 6400lbs on the scale, with nothing special. I've used it to haul trash often and was shocked it's that heavy unloaded.

    Toyota claims the heavy Tundra is about 5700lbs.
     
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  4. Feb 21, 2021 at 3:42 PM
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    Why can’t Toyota adapt there new dynamic force to the 5.7 or a new V8 design? Why go with the most boring and cheapest route of TT V6?
     
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  5. Feb 21, 2021 at 3:49 PM
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    Cpl_Punishment

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    You really think a twin turbocharged engine is cheaper than an NA V8?
     
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  6. Feb 21, 2021 at 5:28 PM
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    Especially with 95% of the work being done. Change some mapping and a few parts and it's done. Even though the TT V6 is already in the Lexus, changing it to work better in truck applications would absolutely mean higher cost.
     
  7. Feb 21, 2021 at 5:39 PM
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    Perfect example of this is general motors who thought they could swap engines in and out of models with just a little tinkering for completely different applications. We all know how well that worked out. Junkyards and spreadsheets across the globe are littered with GM's failures. In fact, I think most automakers, including Toyota played that game and failed.

    Anyone remember the 1993 Toyota T100 with a turbo charged V6 that flopped? Sound eerily familiar?
     
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  8. Feb 21, 2021 at 5:44 PM
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    OVTune

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    With how long toyota has taken to actually get this new tundra ready, it better come off the showroom floor running absolutely flawless.

    If it's anything like the 3rd gen tacoma it will be a permanent stain on toyotas name.
     
  9. Feb 21, 2021 at 5:54 PM
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    There's not a problem with using other engine bases from other platforms, they just have to be aware it's not a straight swap. Nowadays with so much electronic controls it's not a big issues to alter the parameters. And from a couple articles that Sweers did interviews for the engineers in Japan are listening to the North American truck guys - so I'm fairly confident good torque curves will come from whatever engine they use.
     
  10. Feb 21, 2021 at 6:02 PM
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    I agree
     
  11. Feb 21, 2021 at 6:04 PM
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    Would bet it would be more expensive to try and retrofit an ancient V8 to be modern, than to develop a new one. If it was cheaper, I promise you the big three would be doing it lol.

    One could argue that Ford has been very successful with their ecoboost motors versatility. Hell, the 3.5TT has powered everything from the Taurus / Flex / Explorer / F150 / Expedition / Lincoln vehicles / etc.

    An all truck specific V8 would be very limited to low volume models like Tundra / sequoia / Land Cruiser / LX570. Where as a TTV6 would have much more carryover. Would be awesome in the new Tacoma / 4R / Lexus SUV’s.
     
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  12. Feb 21, 2021 at 6:11 PM
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    Cpl_Punishment

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    Ford 5.0: 2011
    GM 5.3/6.2: 2013, though the LS dates back to 1995
    Ram 5.7: 2002

    So the 2007 Toyota 5.7 isn't exactly ancient in comparison.
     
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    Depends what you're chasing for cost - try to make the 5.7 get 20 mpg, not that hard (change the gearing and lose weight), try to get 25 and yeah it's a huge task.

    And absolutely a TTV6 could be put into more vehicles, from the trucks to even sports cars. Whether they change the connecting rods for variable displacement or they alter engine parameters for different torque curves and peak power. Who knows if this is their plan, but it certainly could fit into that model.
     
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  14. Feb 22, 2021 at 4:36 AM
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    I can only imagine the beautiful sound of a turbo 2-stroke V8.
     
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    ...or keep them in the premium line-up for those willing to pay more.


    "Performance models that will appeal to passionate driving enthusiasts that crave higher levels of performance over the standard F SPORT models."
     
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  18. Feb 22, 2021 at 1:22 PM
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    With that in mind if the 5.7 stuck around but was a $5k premium over the hybrid unit (so likely $7-9k over V6TT) how many would pay it? Myself that's an easy no, but for others I think it would work. Now this is assuming it does come with monster payload and towing numbers, if it doesn't have that then there's no reason for the V8.
     
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    F150 can legit tow 13k with the 5.0 and the Heavy Duty Payload Package.
     
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  20. Feb 22, 2021 at 2:15 PM
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    There is nothing legit about a 4500lb truck pulling 13000lbs.
     
  21. Feb 22, 2021 at 2:16 PM
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    Argue with the engineers not me.
     
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  22. Feb 22, 2021 at 2:20 PM
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    I work with engineers every day usually fixing issues that got overlooked in the design phase and now have to be solved in the manufacturing side. They are really good at their job and math, they’re not always good with common sense.
     
  23. Feb 22, 2021 at 3:37 PM
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    So well put about the engineers. In ideal situations absolutely it can do it. Anyone who has towed with an F150 and a Tundra will tell you the Tundra tows more comfortably and the extra 1500-2000 lbs is why. F150's are too soft and too light to be comfortable at towing those weights. And having said that, maybe the next Tundra will have the same problem. Fuel efficiency and ride comfort do not equal a good tow rig normally, we'll see if Toyota goes after it all.
     
  24. Feb 22, 2021 at 3:53 PM
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    To be more fair to Ford and the f150 there is a lot more to the equation than just vehicle weight. When spec’d right they do have a a higher gvwr than the tundra, which mean they can put more of that 13000lbs on the truck. Which kinda sorta but not really makes the truck heavier, I say this because while the weight is on the truck, the momentum is still with the trailer and when shit gets hairy that’s what matters. Me and other experienced towers probably could fine tune a 13klb trailer with a really nice wdh setup to tow pretty good but we also probably never would because we know when a tire blows or some idiot cuts you off or clips you or the trailer that 13klbs is going to man handle that truck and you’ll just be along for the ride.
     
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  25. Feb 22, 2021 at 4:15 PM
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    whoa, really? I know of 86-88 toy pickups with a 22rte(turbo) but never heard of a 3vze turbo. If there is one I want it. I currently have a 93 T100 that I swapped in a 95+ 5vze and supercharged it. The truck came with a 3vze.
     
  26. Feb 22, 2021 at 5:44 PM
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    Let's keep in mind that Toyota wants this truck to be a game changer. As a company at the forefront of fuel efficiency and using hybrid technology it's pretty safe to assume that the V8 is dead. On top of that, the Tundra doesn't get the budget like the domestics do which limits the multi engine choices they seem to always have. Removing the V8 will also benefit their CAFE numbers which is a mandate for them anyway. As someone coming from the Ecoboost, it will do what 95% or more of half ton pick up truck buyers are using their trucks for..... A minivan replacement.

    I need a truck for truck things, reliability and dependability is above fuel economy for me. Its the reason I ran out for a 2021, it's the reason why my next truck will probably be a HD model.
     
  27. Feb 22, 2021 at 6:05 PM
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    Ouch....:duel:but definitely how I use my truck 95% of the time.
     
  28. Feb 22, 2021 at 6:05 PM
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    A turbo engine will do 100% what a NA will do. You lose all the fuel gains, but if someone is after fuel economy and towing they're in an HD diesel. As for reliability, that's a Ford issue - they even have issues in the 5.0 coyote. Sure the turbo means more parts, but if they're overbuilt and taken care of then there's no reason for them to cause reliability issues.
     
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  29. Feb 23, 2021 at 6:23 AM
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    This frustrating as Toyota is a very wealthy company and had 3 engine choices when the 2nd gen first was released.
     
  30. Feb 23, 2021 at 6:33 AM
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    More likely your hybrid TTv6 will be a $7k-9k premium over the v8. Will you pay?
     
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