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Coilovers affecting ride

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Skidmarks, Aug 17, 2020.

  1. Aug 17, 2020 at 6:55 PM
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    Skidmarks

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    I had a pair of 2.5 Radflos and some JBA UCA installed on my 16' Tundra. I also had a TRD front swaybar installed. I love the way it takes the large dips and speedhumps. Very smooth, but the little stuff is awfully rough. I can literally feel every blemish in the road every crack in the pavement and its killing my road trips. Any insight into what is needed to adjust that out? Its been on about 6 months.
     
  2. Aug 17, 2020 at 7:00 PM
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    Also interested in others' thoughts on this. I've had my Radflo 2.5s for about 16 months and 13k miles, with very similar experience to OP.
     
  3. Aug 17, 2020 at 7:03 PM
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    I have the Toytec Alumas....I love them. Rides a hell of alot better than the spacer kit that I took out.
     
  4. Aug 17, 2020 at 7:06 PM
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    What’s the spring rate?
     
  5. Aug 17, 2020 at 7:10 PM
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    Aren't the Radflos rebranded Toytecs?.....which would most likely be 700 lb springs.
     
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  6. Aug 17, 2020 at 7:16 PM
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    Kelvin

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    That is probably why then. Radflo are progressive so I don’t think it would be valving.

    OP, know what your tire pressure is?

    Edit - Also, nope. Radflo are their own brand. The toytecs would be rebranded Radflo. I think.
     
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  7. Aug 17, 2020 at 7:20 PM
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    Iv got the radflos w the spc ucas and I love the ride. Not rough at all but I also have a big bumper in the front and some armor so the weight is a little better. Even w it off I was beyond satisfied w it over the stock ride. My 19 f150 is a million times worse so I hardly notice anything in the tundra. I’d venture to say maybe tire pressure as well. I’m running 36 in back and 38 up front on 315/70r17 ridge grapplers w 20k on them
     
  8. Aug 17, 2020 at 7:21 PM
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    Yes, I think this is correct.
     
  10. Aug 17, 2020 at 7:25 PM
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    Maybe I also need to find a nice heavy, high-clearance bumper to test this theory. :yes:
     
  11. Aug 17, 2020 at 7:29 PM
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    Yeah I knew one of them was the "parent" setup over the other...didnt remember which one. Same with Nitto and Toyo tires...one owns the other.
     
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  13. Aug 18, 2020 at 1:36 PM
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    Sounds like a valving thing. Spring rate is probably fine. Maybe contact Radflo and see if they can tune them for you?
     
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    I had radflo 2.5 in my 4runner and they were fucking trash. Unless you were beating the hell out of it they rode stiff. And then all the heim joints went to hell. Biggest waste of 2600$
     
  15. Aug 24, 2020 at 8:45 AM
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    Sounds like a tire pressure thing to me
     
  16. Aug 24, 2020 at 9:06 AM
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    What tires are you running?
     
  17. Aug 24, 2020 at 9:13 AM
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    I agree with @AccuTune Offroad. I mean, they are shock tuners after all, they might have a clue. I'm new to re-valving/rebuilding my own shocks but sometimes adding a flutter to the stack can remove the harshness of the little stuff. @osidepunker has a good understanding of valving and I'll be seeking his tutelage when I rebuild my front shocks.
     
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  18. Aug 24, 2020 at 9:20 AM
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    The problem with revalving is it's trial and error. Supposedly, my Radflos were valved specifically for a Tundra, but with what assumptions on weight and distribution, and for what kind of terrain, I have no idea. Of course having them revalved is the best way to get the desired balance of ride comfort and performance for the individual. Idk about you guys, I don't have the funds to pay a shop to go through that exercise and and get the truck realigned every time.

    Edit: maybe I should just bite the bullet and spend that 1k on a heavier, high-clearance front bumper like @Yoder18 . Seemed to help him :D
     
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  19. Aug 24, 2020 at 10:05 AM
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    Progressive vs. digressive shocks is what Ive always thought was the explanation for this. I could be wrong but some shocks are built to soak big hits well but perform worse in the small stuff. Then there are shocks that are great at the small stuff but cannot perform as well with the big stuff. Its a classic case of give and take..... I have always heard some shocks can do both but usually they master one terrain over another.
     
  20. Aug 24, 2020 at 11:34 AM
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    Seems like this is somewhat like my dirt bike suspension. Spring it for your weight and valve it for the type of riding. Base valves and mid valves adjusted for type of terrain.....
     
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