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Lift options?? Need recommendations

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Bigolbaddy, Feb 5, 2020.

  1. Feb 5, 2020 at 6:12 AM
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    Bigolbaddy

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    So I have a 2020 1794 with the TRD Off Road package coming within a week. I think I have settled on a 3" lift. I can't realistically do more and feel comfortable because I am a bit of an aggressive driver and I am short and don't want to be that guy in the giant truck, lol.

    I have never lifted a truck before so I know I will go have it done, but I would really like to know what I should be specifically looking for. Does that include a leveling kit?

    I will be taking the truck off road, but not overlanding. I will be towing a travel trailing a few times a year. But for most days it is just a daily commuter.

    All advice appreciated.

    Thanks
     
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    I’d look into the Bilstein 6112/5160 setup with some coach builder shackles and shims. Will get you close to 3 inches and give you a better ride than stock. For the money it’s an awesome setup from what I’ve read on this forum
     
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  3. Feb 5, 2020 at 7:37 AM
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    Reach out to Erick over at @state48overland, he can get you setup with the right setup based off your wants/needs with regards to performance out of your suspension.
     
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    Body lift raises center of gravity far less (by 2/3rds less) than a suspension lift, in case that matters....
     
  6. Feb 5, 2020 at 7:25 PM
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    Since I have the TRD off road package with upgraded Bilstein shocks, is it possible do a lift using those?
     
  7. Feb 5, 2020 at 7:33 PM
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    The only way to do that is using a spacer. Not the best way to go and TBH....the upgraded shocks on a offroad package I do not believe are really much of an upgrade if any.

    Least expensive way to do it right, 5100s on all 4 corners.

    Next step would be like a 6112 setup.

    Then next step a coil over like ADS, Fox, etc. And aftermarket UCA.
     
  8. Feb 5, 2020 at 9:24 PM
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    With a truck as expensive as a 2020 Tundra I would not even be considering stock shocks, or 5100's - get the 6112's pre-assembled at a minimum.
     
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  9. Feb 7, 2020 at 9:42 PM
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    So the Tundra I had on order since Sept got delayed in Houston with a new delivery date of 3/31, not 2/6 like it was supposed to be. But thanks to the great feedback here I just bought a 2020 MGM 1794 minus the TRD off road package. I was going to have to replace the shocks anyway...

    So far, I LOVE it.
     
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  10. Feb 7, 2020 at 10:53 PM
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  11. Feb 7, 2020 at 10:55 PM
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    I type I bunch of stuff and it went away. WTF
     
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  12. Feb 11, 2020 at 8:39 AM
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    why buy the TRD pro if you are going to take all the TRD suspension off?
     
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  13. Feb 11, 2020 at 8:44 AM
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    I wouldn't bother with anything smaller than a 2.5 body coilover/shock upgrade. Id put a total chaos upper arm on and gusset the spindles.
     
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    I ordered the 1794 with the TRD off road which has the 4600s... issue with order so I just bought a 1794 on the lot. TRD Pro was never on the menu.
     
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    Thanks. Why 2.5+, what the logic behind that? This will be my first lift so I want to learn as much as I can.
     
  16. Feb 11, 2020 at 9:22 AM
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    Grab some aftermarket shocks, crank em up a bit, throw some bigger tires on there, and boom 3" of lift overall easy peasy
     
  17. Feb 11, 2020 at 10:16 AM
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    2.5" refers to the diameter of the shock body. Tundras are big trucks and if youre going to use it offroad then youll want the extra dampening and heat capacity.
     
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    You may want to also look up some of the build pages of some of the rigs on here. 831Tun has a good one, Joonbug build, osidepunker, Landyacht, etc..., there's quite a few good resources on here. Kings, ADS, and Fox seem to be the premier go to for 2-3" lift applications running aftermarket UCA's and offroad/oversized tires. As @thrustmaster said, 2.5 to 3.0 shocks let you beat on them without them burning up, and you can get different coil spring rates to avoid having to max out pre-load on your coilovers up front.. I'm positive there are some guys on here more adept than myself at this, hopefully they chime in.
     
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    Lots of options out there, some are cheap and some can become pricey. The quality stuff from Fox and King are pricey, but long term may be a great option for you. Not only can the shocks be tuned specific to your trucks weight and driving style but can also be configured to work well when towing (free service we offer). In addition to the custom valving, the shocks are rebuildable and can last an extremely long time. Anything above a 2" lift, you will need to get an aftermarket upper control arm. Many choices for these, and all of them are very similar. Since you will be towing a trailer, you may want to look into Fox 2.5 rear shocks with DSC adjusters. The DSC adjusters will allow you to manually adjust the compression in the shocks to compensate for the added weight. Great option for trucks that are towing heavy loads on occasion. More details about the DSC adjuster can be found here:
    https://accutuneoffroad.com/should-i-get-dsc-adjusters-on-my-fox-shocks/

    If you're interested in a Fox or King kit, shoot us a PM! Happy to help
     
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    The 6112 I mentioned is actually 60mm or 2.65” - the only real downside is they aren't as easily adjustable or rebuildable as a full bore coilover like a Fox/King 2.5.
     
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    The OP really sounds like he's just talking about casual off-roading, its a strong possibility that he won't gain anything by spending extra on reservoirs for extra heat capacity and such - the heat issue is really more of a benefit for desert running, which is why the only factory trucks you see reservoirs on are usually pre-runner type's like the Tundra PRO etc.
     
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    Awesome. Thank you
     
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    Hey... as long as you don't have to carry a stool... Lift Up bro!
     
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    Hey @AccuTune Offroad... what is the turnaround time on getting the DSC installed on Fox 2.5's? I'm in Texas. How long have y'all been doing these conversions?

    Sorry OP... not trying to Jack your thread!
     
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    I have a Old Man Emu suspension with the 612 springs, and Toytec adjustable shackles set at 1 inch.

    Great option, budget friendly and provides lift, I got between 2-1/2" to 2-3/4" of lift. The ride is great and I have been very pleased with the purchase.

    All really depends on how you will be using your truck, my use is 80% pavement pounder and 20% dirt/gravel roads and pastures hunting and fishing.

    There a lot of great options but my advice is talk to a lot of folks, ask how they use their trucks, tell them how you plan on using yours, what works for one person may work for another as being the right equipment.

    Good luck and keep us posted and post pics of your Tundra.
     
  26. Feb 12, 2020 at 9:16 AM
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    Totally, the OP may not need something as nice as a tuned King or Fox coilover package. The remote reservoirs however are not just about heat. They actually provide more dampening for the shock with less gas pressure, which results in a smoother ride. To get the best tuned shock, we always push the remote reservoir shocks over an emulsion of IFP shock.
     
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    Yes, but once your talking about big 2.65" shocks like the 6112 - then there is less and less need for that reservoir unless your doing crazy off-roading; now if your talking about a 2.0 shock like many rears then it may give more benefit. Of course if you have cash to burn then yes buy some custom King 3.5 reservoirs!
     
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    This is true, I won’t be over landing but I hunt and go camping. Also have a 27’ travel trailer I tow. I don’t mind spending a “little” more if the difference is big. I hate not having the right tool when a situation arrives. From what I’ve read and from what you all have been saying I think the Bilstein 6112/5160 setup would be more than enough. Am I wrong?

    thanks
     
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    I agree that the bilstein provides performance improvement at a reasonable cost.
    I have Fox DSC coilovers on my Tacoma that i Daily Driver and would never spend the money on them again.
    The Ohio Salt has pretty much trashed the appearance of the Fox's. My Icon rears have significantly better corrosion resistance.
    The DSC are nice but they lack Click setting indicators so if you don't count, then write down the setting, it is easy to forget where in the range you are. When you forget settings, how do you match the left and right?
    The DSC will provide the most resolution for adjustment, but once you set them for road driving. they stay there.
     
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    get the bilsteins, they are adjustable in height and affordable, i went with king 2.5, and although they are awesome, they are a race performance brand, overboard for weekend trips and commuting.
     
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