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Alignment spec help. Pulls to the right

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Sumo91, Jan 29, 2020.

  1. Jan 29, 2020 at 8:55 AM
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    Hey guys can you look over my alignment specs? Got new rims and tires and it pulled slightly to the right, after my alignment it pulls harder to the right. They used the clamps for the alignment machine that mount to the tire itself and not the rim, as to not damage the rim. Any help would be appreciated. Thinking of going to a better alignment shop, this one says it's due to abnormal tire wear but after I told them the tires have less than 50 miles on them they were clueless. 2 young kids did my alignment as well which could be a factor20200129_095206.jpg m
     
  2. Jan 29, 2020 at 9:00 AM
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    Typical road crown veers you to the right. Your caster is equal side to side. If it's a crown drift, they need to add caster to the right side. Vehicle will drift to the side with the least positive caster.

    There is a difference between a pull and crown drift, so you need to figure that out first.
     
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    Another option is, if it's much worse after tires than it was before, cross rotate the fronts and see what happens to the pull.
     
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    Yea caster was equal in your before and in the current its .4 more on the left, should be flip flopped to have .4-.5 more on the passenger side than the driver side
     
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  5. Jan 29, 2020 at 6:48 PM
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    I'll swap the front tires in the next day or so, I drove on the other side of the road as well with a left leaning crown and it still wanted to pull right.

    After I swap the front tires around, and if it still pulls. I'll go to a more reputable alignment shop and ask them about this to get it corrected. Thank you all for the input.
     
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  6. Jan 30, 2020 at 5:30 AM
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    Kind of a dummy, I was looking at the previous with them being equal at 2.7. That's what happens when I view docs on my phone.

    Yeah your post, for reasons I mentioned above, the pull was there before the tires because your caster is less positive on the pass side. That and road crown are taking you the same direction, right.

    If the pull was worse after tires, you could still swap tires aide to side, but honestly the alignment should be redone regardless. You'll want the caster values swapped side to side.

    See if they can get camber to 0. You may lose a little in caster but camber can cause wear issues whereas caster typically doesn't affect tire wear.
     
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  7. Jan 30, 2020 at 5:34 AM
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    I just got off of work, about to go to a motel reputable shop now, I'll mention this to them and see if they can make it happen, I appreciate your help and I'll keep you updated!
     
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    Update. Went to a good alignment shop. They drove my truck, said it was definitely pulling to the right too much. They swapped the front tires around and hand torqued them, it tracks straight as an arrow now, they didnt even charge me a penny and were super friendly and genuinely wanted to help. Thanks again everyone for the feedback and advice! Who woulda thought swapping the tires would fix the issue? I'll keep an eye on tire wear to see if it wears unevenly.
     
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    What you going to do when it’s time to rotate tires?
     
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    Rotate front to back
     
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    Even while tracking straight the tires can wear unevenly due to improper alignment. Also since tires are much more costly than alignment, might just be a good idea to correct that caster issue.
     
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    If they pull enough to overcome road crown/caster pull...You need to get the tires warrantied out.

    I have had discount warranty a few tires for issues with pulling.

    Your tires now counter act the caster change. If not corrected now, you'll be chasing this later on.
     
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    Caster typically does not affect wear; camber and toe will for sure. His camber is slightly positive which will wear the outside edges slightly more quickly.
     
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    Thanks for the replies on this. I'll get it aligned again when I get back to Louisiana by my alignment guy. I just needed it to track straight for my upcoming 14hr drive back home. I didnt want to fight to the entire time I drove. I'll check my tire wear when I get home as well. Should be making the trip in the next 2 days
     
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    Should the camber be zeroed out to prevent this? It does have a level on it, not sure if that matters. I'll also be getting bilstein 6112s in the near future as well
     
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    Your assertion that caster "typically" does not affect wear is correct. Typically is the operative word, however it does affect tire wear to an extent. Not to mention it's effect on handling and having to constantly correct for pull, which in turn causes some tire wear in it of itself.
     
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    Like @jordan0317 said, +.5* more caster on the right side than the left. Could reduce toe a little bit too.
     
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