Can the tundra handle this?

Nice boat!

@COMiamiFan kinda looks like your boat! Or is yours a little bit bigger?

 

smaller

 

It's a 21 foot.

 

Not sure why the obvious question has not been asked yet...
Is the Tundra a 040 color code? If so, then

 

This is the only appropriate answer to the problem the in the OP. It is a very simple formula for torque. This is not a simple payload or tongue weight problem that can be solved by looking at the capacities on your door sticker. But torque is simple to calculate. It is lever arm length x weight. Your hitch is about 4' behind the fulcrum, your rear axle. The setup that the OP showed on the back of that Ford almost certainly shifts the center of gravity of that 400lbs 3 feet further away from the hitch and axle. This means a net effect of 1200 ft-lbs of increased downward torque on your truck. Not just the 400 lbs of the ATV, but an additional 1200 because of the location of the weight. No way that is safe. No way that setup legitimately keeps the front wheels safely attached to the pavement.

While I hate to admit that at times I may have done less safe setups than this or the (admirable for its creativity) jet ski and boat setup above, none of this should be considered safe - not for the truck for the truck, you, or others on the road. The jet ski, boat setup at least has the advantage of another fulcrum behind the weight, the trailer, you still need to recalculate the tongue weight. Just because the truck pulls it, doesn't make it right.

 

I was sure to raise some eyebrows with my set up, but just so everyone knows, the set up I have was advertised and designed to be used as such. I did not modify a carrier to hook my boat up to it.

Now weather it is safe or not, I'm sure there are some differing opinions, and I'm fine with that. Much like lift kits, wheel spacers, China knockoff tires, etc.

 

I can’t believe even the OE alloy wheels are chinese made now :/

 

You think 400 lbs a few feet behind the hitch creates enough fulcrum that the front wheels might not stay planted. That’s absolutely hilarious. A 200 lb man in the driver seat twice the distance away already cancels that out. Plus what do you think the engine and tranny weigh that just so happen to be in the front. If a person can haul their hover round behind their Taurus you’re fine with that on the Tundra.

 

Lol the old guys with the hover round hanging off their crown vic

 

If you look really close the front wheels are off the ground....ummm no..

 

I think you misunderstand the issue.

 

Please don't take in personally, I was having some fun. I understand an extended hitch will have quite a bit of leverage etc. etc.. but I have many miles of experience with the set up in the picture as well a quad carrier that is very similar to the OP's pic. My experience was both set ups were stable and secure with zero risk of causing the truck to drive in an unsafe manner.

I can also add a little more real life experience for the quad carrier/hitch strength. A year ago I was involved in a head on collision with a drunk driver, he got on the freeway going the wrong direction at 5AM (long story). Anyway my point is the quad carrier was attached during this accident. The force of the collision broke 4 tie downs, ejected the quad and bent the quad carrier where it meets the receiver. The receiver was fine and the carrier was still attached. I can't calculate the force it went through but I can say it didn't break which actually surprised me.

Anyway, I guess my point is I have a lot of experience with these things and know dozens of other riders that have used these things for years without issue. If you don't agree that's more than okay...that's what these forums are for

 

I don’t see a problem with it at all as long as all the numbers align properly.

On a sidenote, on my previous truck I had a camper shell and a TRX 450. I was able to slip my quad into the camper shell in the back of the truck. The way I did it was by removing the tailgate and loosening the handlebars so that I could roll them back. I would lift the front of the quad up, and then I it would scoop right in to the back of the truck. Install the tailgate and strap down the quad. Reverse procedure when I got to where I was going. I was able to do this all by myself. But it always helps to have a friend to make it easier LOL.

This is just a thought for another alternative.
I also had a three rail dirtbike trailer that I modified to fit my quad and one dirtbike. I would use this but sometimes if I was going solo it was nice to be able to put the quad in the bed of the truck. That way I could hit the carpool lane and also be incognito if I had to stay overnight at a hotel.

 

Applying statics, the tongue weight is still only about 525 lbs, and the additional payload on your rear supension is only 525 lbs more than it would be with the camper + supplies + equipment. But...because of the moment of the ATV/extended rack around the rear axle, the front axle load will be reduced more than it would with 525 lbs on the hitch. I'm thinking the truck might handle a little more squirrelly with that ATV on the back. If it were a trailer, you could use a WDH to level the truck and equalize the axle loads. Frankly, I think you'll be over payload rating with a camper and the ATV/rack, but it all depends on what the camper and supplies weigh.

 

Ok. A WDH would never be used for a 1000 lb loaded trailer like mentioned. We aren’t comparing a toy hauler

 

You’ll be fine!
I drove around the block a couple times with this setup. No problem

 

But in all seriousness. The LA Guard Dog is the only way to travel with an ATV on your bed. Look in the photo how its attached. There are a few testimonials on their website about head on collisions and the ATV not moving in the bed. Just my $.02. If I ever got another ATV that's what I'd use. That or a trailer.

 

Yeah, I think you missed the point. A 1000 lb trailer is a good solution, but you wouldn't need a WDH as you thought I suggested. With the ATV loaded over the trailer wheels, the tongue weight would be what?...maybe 100 lbs or less?

Anyway, why are you asking this question? The photo in the OP shows the rack installed and the ATV loaded. The clearance over the front wheels has barely changed. Why don't you load up the camper, supplies and equipment and see how front wheels look. Then drive it and see how it handles. If the back end isn't excessively sagged, and the truck handles OK, go for it.

 

Wouldn’t the manufacturer of that trailer have exact specs for tongue weight and minimum payload, etc? Then compare those to the numbers for his year/model Tundra.

 

Yes, that's true, but the numbers on such a small trailer are immaterial to a Tundra. The OP is considering a specialized ATV storage rack cantilevered off the trailer hitch. Use of a small trailer was suggested by others as a better alternative.