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Intermittent fasting?

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    Carbs are indeed a requirement. You need fiber, you need Vitamin C, those are only found in carbs, there may be others but those are the 2 I know off the top of my head.

    Over consumption of protein can lead to kidney problems.

    Over eating the "proper" foods can lead to weight gain. Fat and protein can be harder to overeat since they help with satiety but it's still possible, especially with fat.

    There are no good or bad foods, yes some are better than others, but in moderation anything is fine (barring a medical condition).

    In the end the best type of diet is the one YOU can live with long term. High fat, low carb, high carb, low fat, etc, doesn't matter as long as it's sustainable.
     
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    What are you eating, and what does your workout consist of?
     
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    I'm doing 2/5, 2 days fasting with 600 calories a day for the 2 days and then 5 days of the normal calories. I fast Monday and Tuesday. I weigh and measure my servings so as to know very close to what I'm eating. Works very good for me. My normal calories is 2000 a day.
     
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    Was eating lean proteins and fats. Weights PM, cardio AM. I will have lost 6lbs this week, but by the time I'm done with Rexy's party this Saturday I'll be +10 lbs and take me 3 weeks to drop again :(
     
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    Nutrition is of course a science and constantly evolving. There is no definitive proof either way and there cannot be because we didn’t create the machine.

    But case study provides evidence. There are thousands of people living on 100% red meat diets. None of them are deficient in vitamin c or fiber. There is very little evidence that fiber is necessary when you cut junk food from the diet. Fiber is needed when you clog up your digestive track with grains/junk.

    The idea that protein hurts kidneys is also a changing dogma. Sugar causes FAR more damage to the kidneys than protein, and it is possible that we incorrectly assumed the protein was causing the damage when it was the sugar all along. Remember humans have studied nutrition for a very short amount of time historically, but in 1863 Dr Banting discovered that carbohydrates cause weight gain.
     
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    What is everything you eat in a day? Down to the coffee creamer and smallest snack

    What are your weight loss goals?
     
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    This is a good post. I'll add to it. Protein builds muscle, everyone knows that. It's essential for getting lean. Fats and carbs fuel the body's energy expenditure know different ways. Fats digest slower and are better for most leisurely activity. Carbs digest quicker and reach the muscles they're fueling faster, so they're better for in-workout fuel and for recovery.

    When a person builds muscle and loses fat, they may gain weight but actually take up less space in the universe. Muscle assists in burning calories, fat does not, so as a person leans up, it becomes a self-perpetuating cycle. Your body literally is more efficient and can recover from intermittently feeding it poor fuel quicker than someone who is out of shape. The first time I achieved a six pack, I got burnt out on working out and eating right, but I kept my abs for more than a year before they disappeared lol.
     
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    I mean the average life expectancy in 1863 was like 40 I think we're doing a little better now. Saying he discovered it is not entirely accurate, he discovered when he changed his diet he lost weight nothing else.

    Like I mentioned above overeating anything is the cause of weight gain, not just carbs.

    People have lost weight eating nothing but McDonalds and others eating nothing but Twinkies.
     
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    Ok he popularized it, yes more accurate.

    Life expectancy is a misleading stat. Compare the infant mortality rate of 1863 to present day first world. Compare the rate of a 20 year old mother dying in child birth. Both have been reduced to nearly zero. These two causes alone largely contributed to an average low life expectancy.

    Also look at infection. Also massively reduced as a cause of death.

    Food was not killing people younger back then, other factors were.
     
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    Try taking measurements of yourself, onto weighing. It could be water weight. The better way of seeing fat loss, is measuring your neck, waist, chest, etc. Keep track of those, and monitor the progress.
     
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    I tracked it all. I don't do it anymore. I just eat sensibly and work out.
     
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    We all fall apart. Tacos fall apart, and I still love them.
     
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    I have a mentally taxing technical job and am Epileptic so I have to keep stress down as much as possible. Intense or long duration exercise is huge, but also...

    Yoga - Try the Yoga Body series with Julia Marie included with Amazon Prime. I started with one called Yoga for Weight Loss led by Erica Vetra. I learned a lot of the moves on that one, then pretty much only do the Yoga Body series if I'm not just doing my own thing. The energy release from those held positions is the best. A good session just about puts me to sleep.

    Meditation - I use the Headspace app and have for a couple years. There's no sitting cross-legged and chanting. It's basically guided breathing exercises with additional insight about mindset, focus, etc.

    I go through phases where I do it daily, then fall off for a while. Currently I'm doing it in the morning while running through my Yoga/stretches. Two birds with one stone, although the actual practice and retention of the guided techniques (some sessions have them, some don't) isn't real great if I mix it with all that movement. Both have a tremendous effect on my stress levels.


    And if you already know/do this stuff, then just tell me to shut up and go away. I probably won't, though.
     
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    I don't like it. That's why I prefer soft shell tacos :)
     
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    I loved IF when I stayed with it. Now I love beer more than IF
     
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    When I read his post I thought he was referring to Tacoma frame rust..LOL
     
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    That's why I run, it burns the beer calories :thumbsup:
     
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    coincidentally I do most of my eating for the week when I get drunk on the weekends
     
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    You might already know, but just in case, there has been a lot of success in treating epilepsy with a ketogenic diet.
     
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    Conversely, there is also evidence staring to show that almost every single modern disease is possibly linked to our over consumption of grains and sugars.

    Oils such as canola, corn, soybean, vegetable oil have been linked to increases in clinical depression.

    We are now 2 generations deep on massive consumption of seed oils...makes you wonder
     
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    Gas in mileage out is a myth. It’s why some people get better gas mileage in their tundras.... /s

    I was RELIGIOUSLY tracking calories, weighing every ingredient in anything I made, weighing the total, weighing what I ate, and applying fractions. Eating processed food and weighing it and applying its nutritional value. I wore a chest heart rate monitor and tracked estimated calories burned. For every ~3500 calories of deficit I was in, it showed up as ~1lb on a scale. It’s the law of thermodynamics, no myth about it. Do different strategies work for different people? Sure! Some burn less calories for the same type of activities than others but that doesn’t negate in vs out.
     
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    I tried it, my body just cries to me it’s hungry I’m Samoan so I have to eat. I just eat healthy all 3
    meals and workout and I’ve lost weight, I feel good and BP is under control. Works for some people, I know what works for me.
     
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    If I were a taco, I'd be a soft shell taco.:rofl:
     
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    Great thread. I've tinkered around with a ton of stuff over the years.

    CICO: I can't wrap my head around this. It absolutely makes sense, and by all logical reason it should. However, when I was younger before discovering the bliss that is coffee, I drove delivery trucks and worked my ass off. I ate a snickers and Soda around 10am and then had a steak, salad, basic dinner at night. Nothing else. I never dropped a pound.

    Post High School I worked out like a demon with light cardio and heavy weights and ate only loads of carbs and protein. Lost a ton of weight.

    KETO: A few years ago due to gut issues, I did an elimination food regimen. Basically nothing processed. Think about that for a second....Nothing in a package, nothing with a label, nothing with an ingredient list. I ate a lot of carbs in fruit/veggies, fish, some meat (obviously can't eat bacon since it's packed). Basically anything and everything that was natural. Dropped 22lbs in 17 days. For the hell of it I checked my sugar levels and I indeed was in Ketosis. No special keto diet or counting carbs. Just eating nothing processed. Doing that basically eliminates refined sugars and excess carbs in pasta, flour etc.

    Now, I have really maintained and am involuntarily doing IF. I have coffeee in the morning and am usually not hungry until 1 or 2. Eat some lunch have some dinner. No gain no loss. When I do gain it's directly attributed to my beer intake. lol.

    YMMV.
     
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    Thank you. I've actually read the opposite as well..lol. I do exceptionally well on medication that has little to no noticeable side effects, although my school years were hampered quite a bit by other meds. I had terrible grades. I got it straightened out a few years later and have a great life now. So, meds and my hypervigilance with regard to lifestyle have me at 28 years grand mal seizure free . I'm also just plain fortunate to not have it severely as some others. I really feel for the ones who cant live a "normal" life.
     
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    I’ll second this. I did keto a few years back. I lost a ton of weight, but it fucked up other things. I became extremely irritable and disoriented if I was even twenty minutes late eating a meal. My anxiety went through the roof while practicing keto. I started experiencing hair loss and ED, which has never happened at any other time. One thing that was really concerning was that if I did happen to eat something high carb or salty as a “cheat meal”, say chili, tacos, or anything fried, I’d have something I’d describe as a mini seizure. Basically I’d get really disoriented, and it felt like a fist was crushing my brain.

    I don’t know the science behind everything, but though I lost weight several other things got thrown out of whack. I can definitely confirm @Kerch71 ’s statement that it wreaks havoc on your nervous system.

    I went to the doctor a couple of times. All my blood work checked out, and I never got a good answer as to what was going on. Doctor just said to cut that diet out, as it was not healthy.

    All of these symptoms went away once I switched to a more balanced diet and working out. Though I do still get irritable and foggy if I don’t eat on schedule. Not as bad as it was, but still does happen on occasion. That never went away 100%. None of these things ever happened before then.

    Keto may be somewhat beneficial in moderation, maybe for a week or so at a time. Taking it to the extreme like I did is a pretty bad idea.
     
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    Eat meat sparingly, abstain from all processed foods, go heavy on the fruits and vegetables if you must eat large amounts, moderate exercise. Follow this and you can't go wrong. Problem is McDonalds is around the corner and way too convenient when travelling
     
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    Yep. This is pretty much it^^^^^^^^.

    It's incredible how hard it actually is to do.
     
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    ^^This :thumbsup:

    I have found that weight loss diets are bad in general. The problem is people go on a diet - hit it 100% by the book, no matter if it is Keto, Whole 30, IF,.... but they hit it hard, throw their bodies in all sorts of confusion because the brain/body has to adjust abruptly to this new pattern of starvation. Then when you hit your goal weight everything goes back to 'normal' diet. Your body is now used to being starved so it tries to find calories to store up because that is how our bodies are made, and now you gain those lost pounds back faster than you lost them.

    I have had most success by just adjusting my diet to something healthier but sustainable. I have cut my sugar intake in half about 4 months ago and cut some carbs out - not all of it. I have lost 18 pounds. The thing is that I can keep doing this diet - it is not a fad that I have to stop at some point because it is doing damage to my body - a lot of these diets are so extreme that it actually cause damage to your liver, kidneys and even brain.

    Just eat healthy and sensible - something that is sustainable. Get a little exercise. Then even that one donut, brownie or big mac a week will not hurt anything.
     
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    It is actually a lot easier to do than to try and follow a scripted diet.
    We do a full home cooked dinner every night - we never really eat out or order take outs.
    Grill a lean piece of meat/chicken, saute some green beans, cook some carrots. Use a little salt, pepper, garlic and some other herbs to your taste and you have restaurant quality meal, but healthy in about 20 minutes - less time than waiting for a pizza to be delivered.
    (I do agree that it is difficult to do if you travel a lot)
     

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