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Coilover Lift Setting? Super Confused...

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by BlackSheep, Jul 24, 2019.

  1. Jul 24, 2019 at 9:52 AM
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    My general question is how am I getting so much lift up front when the coilovers appear to be set at their lowest possible setting?

    Here’s the tl;dr version of the super long post I started to make with all the particulars:

    I have a 3/1 kit, Radflo 2.5 coilovers set with the collar all the way up, no threads showing above it, and Toytec shackles in the back, set on the middle (1"?) setting.

    They were installed as shipped and have not been adjusted, have 2k on them now, so they should be settled in by now.

    I’m getting 3.5” lift vs. measurements taken with old factory Bilsteins. Currently, center of wheel cap to bottom of fender is 25.25" driver side, 25.5" passenger. Prior to lifting, I was at 21.75"/22".

    I'm still getting a full 1" rake. My rear measurements are 26.25" driver side, 26.5" passenger. Prior to the new shackles, I was at 24.5" driver, 25" passenger, so my 1" setting is actually netting me at least 1.5".

    If I adjust my fronts, will I go higher? I would rather not do that. There's several inches of threads on the coilover body, what setup would a person have to go with to actually use all of them?

    Yes, I'm parked outside of an Ikea :rolleyes:

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  2. Jul 24, 2019 at 3:30 PM
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    Buuuuump
     
  3. Jul 24, 2019 at 5:28 PM
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    Looks to me like you have all the adjustment you can get with those coil overs maxed out I don't think you can go any lower
     
  4. Jul 24, 2019 at 6:35 PM
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    That is nuts how much lift you are getting at the lowest setting like that!

    I would want to know the exact length and weight rating of the springs. The top cap looks thick but maybe thats radflo’s design?
     
  5. Jul 24, 2019 at 6:38 PM
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    no spacers sitting on top right ? correct coilover part # for the Tundra ? maybe wrong springs or the way it was assembled.
    It looks good though :)
     
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    I’ll see if Toytec can chime in.
     
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  7. Jul 24, 2019 at 7:52 PM
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    Correct, no spacers or shims. Just the coilovers. I bought it as a 3/1 kit, but I see on Radlo's website that they make an "extended" one too for the Tundra.

    I've definitely seen others on here post pics of their Kings and Fox coilovers that look similar, but not identical, to mine. They have anywhere from. 2-10 threads showing to get 3" or so of lift.
     
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    Did you lower you truck be4 you tighten your control arms bushing, that’s the only thing I could think of.
     
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    He has stock uca so I’m guessing he didnt touch the control arm bolts
     
  11. Jul 25, 2019 at 4:36 AM
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    I didn't loosen the LCA cam bolts or anything on the UCA. FWIW, the guy who did the alignment afterwards owned a Tundra and said the bolts were easy to adjust.
     
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    Per your measurements of 25'' in the front, it appears you are sitting at a 3''/ 3.25'' lift in the front end. Stock ride height measurements are 22'' in the front (from the info we have gathered).

    There would be no real way to get less lift out of those coilovers as others have said, they are "maxed out" at the lowest setting. The reason you are getting that amount of lift from the coilover system is because of the fact of a heavier and longer spring rate itself which picks up the truck and gives the lift itself along with the design of the shock, spring location, and overall length of the coilover.
    People that will use the adjustments are people that have a good amount of weight in the front end (aftermarket bumper, winch, dual batteries,etc..). I think you have the perfect stance overall in my opinion.
     
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  13. Jul 25, 2019 at 6:37 AM
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    Thanks for the responses, everyone. You all have validated my suspicions. I'm glad I didn't start tinkering with it before asking. I probably would have messed up something and definitely would have wasted a bunch of time. I DO plan to add some heavy goodies to the front end of the truck before long.

    Say I swap out UCAs for better ones, and raise the shackles in the back to the top setting? What would be the danger of cranking the fronts up an inch or so?
     
  14. Jul 25, 2019 at 7:38 AM
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    I would question radflo about the springs. Make sure they aren’t so long that it prevents full compression at the bump stop
     
  15. Jul 25, 2019 at 8:18 AM
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    I had this tidbit in my preliminary text, but edited it out before posting: When I measured the Radflos against my old factory Bilsteins off the truck, they were only 1" longer. On level ground, I only have about 1.5" from the LCA to the bump stop. That's including the 1" bump stop spacer that came with my kit.
     
  16. Jul 25, 2019 at 9:24 AM
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    Ohhh bumpstop spacer is the dead giveaway. Those shocks/springs are longer than factory at full compression. Thats why you cant drop it down anymore.

    King/fox/icon don’t use a bumpstop spacer. They fully compress like a stock shock

    Its normal for a coilover to be longer off the truck than stock, they can have more down travel built in
     

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