Trying to finish my set up stuck on the rear

My truck is a 14 crew max tundra 4x4
As of now I have my total chaos control arms front and rear 2.5 kings with adjusters fronts are extended travel as well sitting in my living room
Picking up my 37s and new wheels next hitch home
So my questions are on the front kings I wanna be able to have 3 inches of lift in the front how much do I need to adjust out of the box? These are the 600# spring rate for now
Second question I keep going back and fourth on lift shackles and leaf packs I will be hauling a drag car and play truck every now and then along with my atvs and sxs on some weekends too and a horse trailer possibly. I do have a 2500 chevy but that's the other halfs dd so it's not always available ect.. would deaver u748s suit me well with total chaos shackles or would I need to be looking into some dakar or just keeping the oem? As of now my bed is empty no toolbox or anything yet I will be adding a jack and some tools along with a new rear bumper and spare tire preferably on the rear bumper so there will be some weight in time that will stay constant what would be recommended truck will be offroad some as the build progresses
Pic of new kings I got today

 

U748s would probably be your best bet as far as performance. They are still not really designed to tow heavy. If you will be opting for triple bypass shocks in the rear, I would recommend a set of airbags to take the droop out. The springs will most likely sag when you tow the drag car. The U748s will support the standard overland load-out (tent, water, fuel, fridge, etc). I believe they are rated for an extra #500. Most of the aftermarket leaf springs will require aftermarket shackle. You can also get custom leafs made through Deaver or Atlas. I'm in the same boat with the performance or towing decision. I don't have anything right now, but would like to get a project car and a 90s Ford truck or Bronco.

 

King's always include an instruction in their boxes with information on adjusting the coilovers unless you bought them used which I don't think you did due to the green tag. If I recall it should be 5 turns to achieve 1" of lift, 2.5 turns will be 1/2" of lift. coilovers should be preset just about 2" out of the box. The U748s will be money and do you good enough shackles are on your preference they all function the same just depends if your wallet wants to function with the brand name. The only difference is coachbuilders shackles are more billet and bolder with different height size and if you plan on running 35" spare under the bed coachbuilder will not work due to the thickness of the shackles.

U748s and a good set of bags should be a good combo to pair up for your towing needs.

 

Yeah the fronts are brand new I had enough time to wait pull em out look them over and snap a picture before leaving for work I ment to take the directions with me to read over but got distracted. But good to know the around about setting out the box and what it takes to lift them up thank you
I've been eyeing the u748s hard I dont mind spending the money on quality for sure later on I plan on doing the camburg relocate with 3.0s
@5.7TRDProm I've followed your build pretty close here and Instagram didn't you make the swap to the total chaos shackles? I thought you did if so how do you like them. I'm not concerned on the space for a spare under the bed as I'm doing 37s as well
Thank you both for your inputs

 

Yeah I had coachbuilders I think it was +3 and when I ordered the U748 I knew the rear was gonna be a high horse end look so I bought toytec shackles which was okay. Until I put the 37s on I can really see how ugly and humiliating it was with the rear end shooting up way higher unexpectedly. So I switched to total chaos because it was the only shackle on the market with the least amount of lift since the U748 is already providing most of the lift. So far I love them, can't really complain much since I had always been a total chaos fanboy. Another thing is the 2 piece design which makes it so much easier to install or uninstall if I had to. I don't have to wedge or pry crap around to install or run the bolts as how other full 1 piece shackles are.

 

Definitely get bags. Use the Daystar Cradles or fab up some removable mounts. I'm looking at the Daystar cradles myself.

 

@5.7TRDProm I see what your saying now,
So for time being would the total chaos give me enough lift with stock leafs to clear the 37s till the new leafs arrive? As it'll be a few weeks till I order the leafs probly 2 or 3 at the most
@GravityGear where are you looking at mounting yours? In the bump stop location? I've seen a few different set ups I was looking at getting some hydraulic bumpstops later on as well but need to research more. The day star cradles are a great set to get from what I've read

 

Haven't really decided yet. I want to run hydro bumps, so that location might not be optimal.

 

It all depends on your offset of your wheels, but I do believe it should be just enough to clear the 37s for now with those shackles. Here is another user running 37s on stock suspension with some light trimmings. It's all in the alignment work and offset.

Largest tires on stock Tundra without lift / level?

 

Yeah I'll have the same offset as him +25 so I should be decent for now till I get the leafs do you have any recommendations on where the best price on the leafs would be? And also how do you like the wheeler super bumps?

 

I understand that nitro gear old tundra had a pretty sweet set up for the bags if you haven't seen it yet

 

You can check out some of the vendors here maybe hit up SDHQ. I dont know who has best prices on them because it's the shipping weight that will cost. I ended up going through camburg locally and paid cash to get away from tax. Wheelers superbumps were probably the best bang for my bucks up front coming from those coachbuilders extended bumpstop spacers... smh... the baddest and most regretful choice I ever made. Always made the truck felt like it was pulling triggers on a shotgun with buckshot up front every time I would come down into compression. Wheelers superbumps made the front end so smooth and comfy and no harsh bottom outside at all. I'm sure I probably lost about 1" of uptravel when fully compressed, but at least I know my front end is happy and feeling good when things gets gnarly. Then again they will be coming off in a few months since I'll be going with hydro bumps up front. Upgrades never stop lol

 

I'll start shopping then to see on prices
And good to know going to order my super bumps this week then hopefully they are there when i get back

 

I didn’t read all the replies so not sure if repeating anyone.
But first, 600lb springs aren’t gonna cut it. And just stick with stock leafs with longer shackles and get bags. Deaver 748s are not a smooth ride despite what anyone might have told you. They also work better with a static load. Also, if your gonna run 37s and tow/haul stuff I hope you’re getting gears... and even with oem kings at the top setting ur gonna have to put in some work to clear 37s I hope u know that.

 

So the 600 # springs wont be enough even without a front bumper right now?I went back and fourth with filthy motorsports on spring rates and they said the 600 would do for now
And yeah 5.29 gears are going in as well like I said it's not my main tow pig just occasionally

 

700. Guys running bumpers and winches should have 800. Why settle for “it’ll do”

 

Just misinformed I guess

 

And if ur just gonna tow or haul here and there definitely don’t get u748s

 

Well working on ordering the right springs now then to get it right and didn't think the 748s would be that bad of a choice but thank you for the input

 

much better off with the stock leafs

 

What would you recommend shackle wise then

 

Toytec, TC, coachbuilder, etc whatever u prefer if your looking for a little lift

 

IMO it'd be better to locate your "constant weight" gear closer to the cab, not on the tailgate/ rear bumper. Over time, weight on the dmfsr back will cause stress but mainly, since you plan to tow sometimes, you'd be creating significant extra (avoidable) "tongue weight", which may already be the case with what you're planning to tow, without you adding to it by locating heavy items near the back bumper.

I'm a big fan of Super Bumps.

 

@Spolar I've tracked down the 700#springs and a shop that can install them question tho? In the future I know I will be doing with a aftermarket bumper/winch (I have no idea when yet) I see where you said 800# I've seen alot of people running 700# with bumpers and winches. Would it be beneficial to get the 800 now or 700 till I end up getting the bumper whenever that would be

 

700 is good

 

Okay thank you