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Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by lc69hunter, May 3, 2019.

  1. May 3, 2019 at 2:32 PM
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    lc69hunter

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    I am shopping for rear springs for my 2001 AC 4wd.

    Several vendors are seeming to indicate that the drivers side and passenger side are different. Others are not.

    I do not want an add-a-leaf setup, and do not really want OEM, but something a little beefier
     
  2. May 4, 2019 at 5:43 AM
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  3. May 4, 2019 at 6:29 AM
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    Alcan will make what you want.
     
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    I have run an Alcan set since 2013, they've been very good for me. One odd part was the eyes were slightly slimmer than the stock springs. I stuck a washer on each side to fill the gaps in the hanger, hasn't been a problem.

    What exactly do you want put of new leafs?

    An option you can check out are the Archive Garage spec Deavers. It is a spring over like the factory set, but fine tuned to give a bit of lift and carry.a few hundred pounds while remaining flexible. A downside to moat progressive packs is losing payload, these guys figured that out.

    https://archivegarage.com/products/archive-overland-tundra-springs
     
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  5. May 4, 2019 at 7:42 AM
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    Does OME even make Dakar leaf springs for the 1st gen tundra? I can't find anything.
     
  6. May 4, 2019 at 7:47 AM
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    Don't think so. Couldn't find anything either.
     
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  7. May 4, 2019 at 11:25 AM
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    OME doesn't make rear springs for first gen.
     
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  8. May 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM
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    Professional Hand Model

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    I know you said you do not want stock springs, but maybe order a pair and stack some of your original leafs with the new leafs?

    I found this link last year and they are OE sizes for excellent cost. Spoke with them on the phone and you must order your own bushings.

    With that info, I looked and found it better to order new OEM rear shackles kit (bushings already included) as a way to have a lower overall cost with everything new versus piece mealing.

    https://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=7670

    https://www.toyotapartsdeal.com/200...=LIMD;5=ATM;6=4HC;7=ACB;9=SD;0=UCK40L-ARSLKA)
     
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  9. May 5, 2019 at 4:53 AM
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    This is what I did with my springs. I used a set of 3/4 ton Chevy springs as donors for my leaves since there the same width.
     
  10. May 7, 2019 at 6:16 PM
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    This is not the cheap option. If you look, the "cheap" leaf springs are single springs and the full assembly is $600+ per side. Deaver or Alcan is the cheaper option and can be customized to your setup based on the weight of your vehicle with add-ons (static load).
     
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  11. May 7, 2019 at 11:59 PM
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    Archive Garage “Ordering closed at this time...”

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  12. May 8, 2019 at 2:24 AM
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    The expense is one reason I went with airbags for my rear end. A lot cheaper than stiffer springs and no downside of stiffer ride when not loaded.
     
  13. May 8, 2019 at 2:35 AM
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    I to vote for Alcan. They can make the springs for your “intended use” and spec and customer service, for me, with question was on point.
     
  14. May 8, 2019 at 4:10 AM
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    Not sure what you are looking at to base your assertion, but for my truck I can buy a pair of OE springs (OEM SPEC SIZED) and have them delivered to my door in a week for $298 ($148 each).

    Leafs $298
    New U-bolts and bushings an extra $50
    Total $348

    If I want to buy new Toy OEM Shackles with bushings/thru bolts included (Add $200)(Deduct $30 above)

    Now, to my point per what Ethan (above) did if you are DIY: Remove an old leaf or obtain one somewhere and stack it on to the New OE purchase.

    Now some more blather: I’ve called one of those two leaf companies (you suggested) about purchasing springs in the past. They wanted me to go measure the springs on my truck (3-4 different measurements), measure the rear bumper and front bumper, blah blah blah before giving me a price. I thought they should know this stuff. Of course I can calculate my weights easily but come on man! on the other measurments of length, height, curve, blah.

    SoCalPaul posted above $980 from Deaver (assume they come with bushings?) (still need buy ubolts)
    Versus $348 OE spring and assy kit included.

    Again, which is more expensive? Both are DIY anyways so the labor doesn’t factor in.

    Maybe you saw something I didn’t?
     
  15. May 8, 2019 at 5:30 AM
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    I followed the link to the toyotapartsdeal.com that you posted. You are looking at the individual springs for that price. The entire assembly per side is $650+. Notice in my screenshots that they show "NO, 1" and "NO 2" designating which leaf you would be purchasing.Screenshot_20190508-062603.jpg Screenshot_20190508-062612.jpg Screenshot_20190508-062640.jpg Screenshot_20190508-062632.jpg
     
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    The 1st link PHM posted for SD Truck Springs is where he's talking about getting aftermarket but OE style springs for that price.

    The second link was to show the pricing for the Toyota shackles/bushings.
     
  17. May 8, 2019 at 6:37 AM
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    Ah! Thanks for the clarification. Sorry about that @Professional Hand Model

    So for my truck, 06 DC 4WD there are a few different options on that site but they are still $300+ per side. I am assuming the more expensive ones are the DC 4WD TRD springs?
     
  18. May 8, 2019 at 2:43 PM
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    Not sure as I’ve gone cross-eyed trying to figure out all the option$ just on the 2002.

    Wished I had put spring keepers on my leafs right after I purchased the truck new and I’d probably be in good shape still. My springs splayed a few years ago and the silencer pads are shot or lost.

    Used some clamps to bring the leafs back into shape, but not the same. Lo, I may be heading into some much dreaded suspension work in the future.
     
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    I am definitely not looking forward to pulling the springs off. They haven't been off yet and I am the OG owner. Personally, I think I'll be going the Alcan route. I live about 3 1/2 hours from Alcan so I can go pick the springs up or pay them a visit pretty easily. I am going to start hitting all the leaf spring bolts this weekend with PB Blaster, even though I'll not be buying for another month or so.
     
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    I did the Wheeler's Offroad add-a-leafs for $150. I'm very happy so far. Their instructions include removing the heavy overload leaf, which I did. Leaving it in would certainly make them "beefier"
     
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  21. May 8, 2019 at 5:01 PM
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    I am beyond add-a-leafs. My OEM springs are shot. My rear passenger sags about 1¹/⁴” compared to the driver's side. My passenger side front also sags about ³/⁴ - 1". I need new springs all around. Running 5100's on the 3rd notch currently. Plan on new leafs, TC or Camburg UCA's, diff drop, CO's. Hoping leafs help the front so I don't have to buy front springs before CO's.
     
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