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  1. Jun 3, 2017 at 9:27 PM
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    T-Rex266

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  2. Jun 3, 2017 at 9:31 PM
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    Darth Tundra

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    Im going to guess.....Yes ?
     
  3. Jun 3, 2017 at 9:32 PM
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    Darth Tundra

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    Unless you are saying the "WHEELS are moving in the opposite direction
     
  4. Jun 3, 2017 at 9:32 PM
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    No. It's not the wheels that need speed...it's wind and wings that need it
     
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  5. Jun 3, 2017 at 9:52 PM
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    No.
     
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  6. Jun 3, 2017 at 9:52 PM
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    @Almaboy has it right, no matter how fast the wheels turn you're gonna need wing lift to take off
     
  7. Jun 3, 2017 at 9:58 PM
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    c'mon man public school education with low 80's iq.....i gotta 50/50 on this....nope
     
  8. Jun 3, 2017 at 9:59 PM
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    Low 80s? That's twice mine
     
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  9. Jun 3, 2017 at 9:59 PM
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    I agree with @Almaboy and @gosolo, a sufficient amount of air must be flowing across the wings to create enough lift to allow the plane to leave the ground. Final answer is No.
     
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  10. Jun 3, 2017 at 10:04 PM
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    Well, how could it? lol
     
  11. Jun 3, 2017 at 10:09 PM
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  12. Jun 3, 2017 at 10:36 PM
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    Thrust...thats how
     
  13. Jun 3, 2017 at 10:49 PM
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    Editing my answer.....

    No if only going by the statement above of the conveyor moving and no verbiage of the plane doing any work.

    Yes if you think of the conveyor moving as just an obstacle. If the plane can turn its engines one and be forced forward with its thrust then the wheels can move at whatever speed they want. The plane will move forward and the plane will take off.
     
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  14. Jun 3, 2017 at 10:51 PM
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    Cmon Sean.....whats the answer :annoyed: :popcorn: :pccoffee:
     
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    I just googled the answer.....the plane WILL TAKE OFF !!!
     
  16. Jun 3, 2017 at 10:57 PM
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  17. Jun 4, 2017 at 12:50 AM
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    YES. The plane cane take off. And if it's a United Airlines plane, they can take YOU off.:rofl:
     
  18. Jun 4, 2017 at 1:36 AM
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    @SR5TRDTUNDRA beat me to it. The wheels do not generate forward momentum for an aircraft, the engines do. So yes, the plane will still take off on a conveyor belt. It does mess with your mind a bit though. :confused:
     
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  21. Jun 4, 2017 at 5:14 AM
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    This is a physically impossible scenario. In order to match the airplane's wheel speed, friction has to work in the opposite direction as the engine thrust (this produces a proper rotational direction for the wheels). But this is static friction which has an upper limit which is not that large (think how easy it is to spin your wheels in your truck). So at some point, thrust becomes larger than friction and airplane will have net forward force. In other words, a conveyer belt that matches the airplane speed throughout its thrust is not physically possible.

    So does the airplane take off while it's not moving with respect to the ground? Probably not since thrust is still tiny.

    So does the airplane take off while it's at normal take-off thrust? Yes, since conveyer belt no longer becomes obstacle since wheels began to spin long time before this thrust is reached. So effectively it's slightly less efficient runway.
     
  22. Jun 4, 2017 at 5:57 AM
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    If a man is completely alone in the woods, is he still wrong?





    Hint: ask his wife
     
  23. Jun 4, 2017 at 8:58 AM
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    But no one can match United's reputation. :D
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    Concussion, two broken teeth, broken nose, all from running to his chair? How does that work? My imagination fails me at this point. (he was already boarded according to everything I read)

    Stores and restaurants are private too. But they can't bloody the customer in front of multiple cameras and expect not to be damaged in public relation.
     
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    I say no plane needs wind for lift i believe plane would be stationary
     
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    After them paying for their ticket? Getting thrown off to make room for someone else when they overbooked the flight themselves?
    Also, didn't even reimburse or put the family on another flight. Screw that

    on top of that...threatening your family just because you won't give up the seat? Bullshit.
     
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  30. Jun 4, 2017 at 1:33 PM
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    HELL NO!!!
    But now if you could put the plane and the conveyor belt in a giant wind tunnel, that could move the air over it's airfoils at a sufficient speed to provide enough lift, then theoretically it could leave the ground and "fly" in place, if the engines were turning, providing sufficient thrust, and the conveyor belt going at a speed to match the airspeed.
    In fact, you wouldn't even need the conveyor belt in that scenario. The wheels needn't turn at all.
    Edit....BTW, what the Mythbusters video shows is completely different than the question posed by Sean266
     
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