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Wobble in front end

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by Sparkybma, May 7, 2018.

  1. May 7, 2018 at 8:22 PM
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    Sparkybma

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    I can’t find the post that talked about a common problem with the front end becoming loose on Gen 3 models. Can someone point me in the right direction? Mine seems to have developed this issue.
     
  2. May 7, 2018 at 8:52 PM
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    I have never heard of this being a problem, where did you get this information?
    Do you have stock wheels, tires and suspension?
     
  3. May 7, 2018 at 9:06 PM
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    @dcsleeper408 has mentioned to me a half shaft issue that he had repaired on his '15 Pro. I've got an issue with mine too that I believe was caused by having too much caster when I first lifted (installed C/Os) my truck. While talking with @osidepunker and @KevinK they've mentioned similar things. Alex said it's his rack bushings.
    I've been procrastinating about delving into this issue as it seems like a bit of a rabbit hole.
     
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  4. May 7, 2018 at 9:21 PM
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    I’m pretty sure that none of the folks that you mentioned are running stock suspension. In fact I believe this is the speed glamper crowd and they push their rigs really hard. The fact they don’t break more shit is proof of how tough Tundras are. OP says this is a common problem on 3rd gen Tundras. I don’t believe this is true. I expect anyone with this “wobble” problem is not running a stock rig. That’s why I asked if it was modified.
     
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  5. May 7, 2018 at 9:53 PM
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    Yeah, I'm not trying to imply that it's a common issue, merely mentioning people whom I believe well qualified to advise on this subject from personal experience and wrenching on their own rides. The only relevant front suspension mod that @dcsleeper408 has on his Pro is MCM UCAs.
     
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  6. May 7, 2018 at 10:16 PM
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    I had my intermediate shaft replaced. I have to look at my paperwork, I’m sure I was on factory suspension at the time of first complaint at a shitty dealership.

    Took it to a better dealership after it got worse and was covered under warranty. I believe there was a tsb out on it. I think repair was re grease but problem kept occurring so it was replaced.
     
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  7. May 7, 2018 at 10:34 PM
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    I got a wobble and my steering wheel was slightly off on my way home from T2S. Started at the steering wheel, had tiny bit of slop but nothing a miss. Got to the rack, and it had shifted on both bushings to the driver side. Popped it loose(holy crap that sucks), jiggled it, re-torqued and poof, like new. This is on an 18, if I left the rack bushings pushed, maybe they wear faster? I don’t know.
     
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  8. May 7, 2018 at 10:40 PM
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    Dang, I might need a little advice. Obviously I haven't been as "grab the bull by horns" and get 'er done as you've been.
     
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  9. May 7, 2018 at 11:15 PM
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    I need to research the TSB’s, since I’m also in a 2015.
     
  10. May 8, 2018 at 5:11 AM
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    I have 7 degrees caster so I doubt too much caster can cause an issue.

    I don't have a "wobble", just bad steering rack bushings which causes a little bit of play in the wheels

    "wobble" is not detailed enough. There are lots of things that could be described as a wobble. Unbalanced tires, cupped tires, bad bushings etc. I am not aware of any common problems on a tundra that cause a "wobble". The OP need to be more specific
     
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  11. May 28, 2018 at 2:14 PM
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    I too have developed a wobble in the steering wheel of my 2018 cement. And its pulling to the passenger side going down the road.
     
  12. May 29, 2018 at 4:27 AM
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  13. May 29, 2018 at 4:35 AM
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    I know I'm resurrecting a dead thread but did you ever figure this out? I have the same problem in a 17 dc
     
  15. Nov 5, 2020 at 1:06 PM
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    I've had a 2019 Tundra Long Bed with a steering wheel wobble that is intermittent from the day I purchased it. I've taken it to the dealer multiple times where they can verify the issue but not able to resolve it. I can feel the vibration while holding the wheel. Depending on the road conditions and speed will greatly effect it going to very low to detect to ridiculous amount of side to side wobble. So, I took the vehicle to a specialty shop that works on custom 4x4 rigs, they were also able to verify the issue on a road test as well. However, no solution. The vehicle pulls slightly to the right and the wobble has occurred as low as 15 mph but more frequently at around 70 mph on freeways. Also, when it's wobbling and I use the brakes, it seems to increase the wobble. The variance of roads doesn't seem to be consistent to a specific type. From asphalt, to cement to bridges it is duplicated going over the same lane at the same spot in the road. It also seems to either stop or start at the changes of the types of roads inconsistently.

    I wonder that this issue isn't reported as often because the long beds are rarer vehicles. Also, there is a great deal of motion osculating on freeways from front to back which maybe amplifies the issue on these vehicles. I'm not sure how to resolve this issue. I want to because I love the truck and would like to have a fleet of them.
     
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  16. Apr 3, 2021 at 8:44 PM
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    I have the exact same problem. Any luck resolving the issue?
     
  17. Apr 4, 2021 at 4:25 PM
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    I contacted Toyota MFG directly who redirected me back to the same dealership. The service Mgr. and a different service writer road with me for a test drive. Prior, they requested that I remove all of the weight from the vehicle. I did remove everything except for the camper shell and the power sprayer which is centered and mounted to the bed near the cab. During the road test the wobble appears to be less significant than when there is less of a load. They recommended that I install helper bags in the rear as they suspected that weight in the bed caused the front of the vehicle to lift up thereby causing the issue. However, other mechanics that I know and "car people" that I know said they believed that was just smoke. The dealership had swapped out new wheels and tires with the same stock type but no change. They also recommended that I install "E" rated tires using a different MFG. So, I had America's Tire install Method wheels with Cooper "E" rated tires ~$2,500. I contacted Summit Racing and ordered Firestone helper bags ($450 + $160hr x 2 = ~$770). I thought that it had resolved the issue on day one. However, after I installed all my chemicals and supplies back into the vehicle and bed the problem was still present. I went back to the frame & suspension shop and had them put more air into the bags. Originally, they were afraid to put too much psi. I had them put 60 psi instead of like 30 psi and it made a huge difference. The end result is the oscillation from front to back has been resolved by installing the Firestone helper bags. One of the issues is that the MFG of them explains that air needs to be added to maintain the psi frequently because it will leak out. So, for my next Tundra Long Bed it may have to have the ~$2,200 Firestone helper bags installed that have a built in compressor which can be adjusted from within the cab. My goal here is to create a fleet of these vehicles used in the Pest Control industry but I need to remedy this front in wobble issue before buying more. Everyday I drive my work vehicle I travel on highway 85 which is smooth asphalt and the wobble is immediate. However, when test driving on highway 880 near the dealership it doesn't wobble at all (with less load). I love Toyotas' quality of products especially their luxury Lexus line as I've owned one for many years and was very impressed with their quality! However, I imagine that these long beds UNDER LOAD are not performing as expected because they are quite rare and consumers do not drive everyday under load with them like I do. Thereby making this an isolated incident. I've ruled out tires and wheels and will focus on the steering issues using help from the "car guys" that I know. I have some experience as I have built up a frame up restoration of a Jeep 4x4 to be used off road. I had a power steering assist installed from PSC Performance Steering Components. Their products work and work well so I am leaning towards to get one installed to see if that will help. I'll keep you posted...
     
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  18. May 25, 2021 at 3:29 PM
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    EricD And so it begins.

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    My 2021 crew is having the exact same issue... did you find a fix?
     
  19. May 25, 2021 at 7:22 PM
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    I contacted Summit Racing, purchased / upgraded the front rotors and pads which did stop the added wobble when I applied the brakes. At the advice of the Service folks at the dealership, I installed Firestone helper bags which lifted up the rear end also purchased from Summit. That fix did resolve the oscillation from front to rear quite substantially. I also upgraded the rims and tires using Cooper E rated tires with Method Race wheels. There was no change whatsoever. I still have the steering wobble and still searching for a solution.
     
  20. May 26, 2021 at 4:18 AM
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    EricD And so it begins.

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    2021 Tundra crew SR5 4x4 here. The truck had a slight wobble at the same speed with stock steel wheels and tires at 500 miles. I thought upgrading tires and wheels would fix it. I installed 18" x 9" +18 methods with Yokohama Geolandar tires in 275/70/18. I still have the wobble from around 50 plus mph. AND it's indeterminate like before.

    Note: I had the same problem with the same tires on my 2017 Tacoma TRD, interminate steering wheel wobble, and it went away after they replaced the steering rack under warranty. They said the seals were leaking? Whatever it was on the Tacoma it got fixed.
     

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