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Why a Tundra over an F150?

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by Mark843, Mar 8, 2018.

  1. Mar 8, 2018 at 7:24 PM
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    I am in the market for a new truck. I have been a Toyota guy and own a 85 pickup and a 2000 Camry. My wife has a Rav4. The Camry is my daily driver and it's time to upgrade. I was 99.8% sure wanted a Tundra.....until I drove the F150.

    I was looking at a Tundra sr5 crewmax with the TRD package and convenience package.

    As a comparison I then drove an F150 xlt supercrew with the 5L v8 and they seemed pretty nice. I can get a factory elocker and sync3 seems better than entune. Sync3 comes with Android auto and Waze which would be nice. The F150 also has 110v outlets in the cab, more USB ports, has rear under seat storage, gets better mpg, and has better safety scores from IIHS.

    As of right now the only things the Tundra offers over the F150 is TSS-P and the rear window. I wanted to say the Tundra is more reliable but the cam tower oil leak issue is making me have second thoughts on that, especially the cost to fix it.

    Is these something I am missing with the Tundra and why it would be a better choice? Which ever I pick I will be keeping the truck for 10 years. Why did you guys pick the Tundra over other trucks?


    ETA: I am getting the Tundra. The only problem is due to work I will have to wait another week to pick it up.
     
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  2. Mar 8, 2018 at 7:26 PM
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    Good luck keeping the ford over 10 years ... :cool:
     
  3. Mar 8, 2018 at 7:32 PM
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    I'm on my fourth Tundra. All I've ever had to do was general maintenance. So that's why I bought another Tundra and keep buying Toyota products. I have friends with Fords and I can't say I've heard such good stories for reliability. Plus the resale values of Toyotas are very strong. Best of luck to you on your new truck choice.
     
  4. Mar 8, 2018 at 7:33 PM
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    First off welcome from Ohio! The cost to fix the other trucks alot more than the Tundra is one reason, resale, all the other fancy stuff in the others is just more crap to go wrong.
     
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    I was about to say the same thing :rofl:
     
  6. Mar 8, 2018 at 7:37 PM
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    Reliability- cam tower doesn’t effect that. Besides, it’s warrantied anyways. Your Tundra is a lot less likely to be in the shop like many Ford trucks are.

    Resale: Numbers will speak for themselves.

    Yes, audio is horrible in these trucks. There’s zero doubt in that.

    The only Ford truck I would consider is probably the Raptor. Then again, I would be a bit hesitant when mileage catches up to you and misc crap starts going wrong. Have you searched around on the Ford forums?
     
  7. Mar 8, 2018 at 7:42 PM
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    I drove Toyota trucks from 1997 until early 2012 when I traded my Tacoma for my first full size truck...a new 2011 eco boost F150. Less than a year into ownership it was obvious build quality was not even close to Toyota standards. With 20k miles on the clock my engine blew while traveling 75mph down the freeway in Kansas in the middle of the night. What an effing nightmare! A week later I had my truck back and a brand new engine. During my 3rd year of ownership I had countless electrical problems. Weird shit with the heater/AC, and stereo and a few others. Then one day driving home from work I got a ton of error codes and lights in the dash and no longer had 1st and 6th gear. Limped home and when I restarted my truck everything had cleared. That was it for me. My factory warranty had just run out and I was not prepared to start paying for repairs. I traded in less than 2 weeks later for my Tundra.

    BUILD QUALITY and RELIABILITY are the top 2 reasons I will drive Toyotas for the rest of my life!
     
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  8. Mar 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM
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  9. Mar 8, 2018 at 7:45 PM
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  10. Mar 8, 2018 at 7:47 PM
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    Is this even a real debate :confused: can we get back to the shenanigans :bananadance::kona:
     
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    I cant be a part of that! :anonymous:
     
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    Check on insurance before you buy. One of my Ford fanatic friends has several F150 EB and F350 trucks.
    His aluminum trucks are double the monthly cost vs his one tons.
     
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    Gino your the king of shenanigans :D :boink:
     
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    Pffffftttt :rofl:
    That's a raptor too, probably double the price compared to all the other power wheels :spending:
     
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    Agreed - I like Avalanches and how Dodges look, but they have too much stuff going on
     
  18. Mar 8, 2018 at 8:06 PM
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    The cam tower issue, while a pain in the ass and mind boggling it's still an issue, isn't really a common thing. It's common on here because most of us are enthusiasts and look for that kind of stuff and some come in only to complain or seek answers. Leaking cam towers also won't leave you stranded somewhere.

    The Fords are nice, initially, but all that bling just doesn't seem to hold up. I once chose an ecoboost f150 over the Tundra back in 2012. My ford was nice, configured exactly the way I wanted, and had a nice big 36 gallon tank (something none of the other 1/2 tons had). On our first trip out of town with it, the intercooler blew apart and we limped it back home. Over the course of a couple years there were multiple problems with that truck and numerous trips to the dealer. The final straw(s) was when the engine started knocking, low on power, along with the truck randomly loosing electrical power at the worst possible times. Screw all that. I just want something that's reliable this time, even if it doesn't have all the bells and whistles. Entune is horrible, I think we all agree on that, but it's not the end of the world and a different head unit fixes that as well. I might jinx myself here but entune has been working remarkably good lately on my truck, FWIW.
     
  19. Mar 8, 2018 at 8:08 PM
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    Aluminum can catch fire....[​IMG]

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    Even my 2012 f150 was much more to insure vs the Tundra. I was told it was due to several things including, the f150 is the most stolen vehicle in NM, it is expensive to repair, and has a higher than normal amount of claims tied to it.
     
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    LMAO,

    All I saw was "Aluminum CAN"
     
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    :anonymous: I’ve been looking at Raptors. Got to spend the day with one, they are very nice, and the Bang and Olufsen system impressed the crap out of me. 550hp with a tune is neat as well.:anonymous:
     
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    I got anxiety driving my F150 past the AAA 100 mile free tow range. There’s no way in hell I’d take it out to the middle of the freaking desert. The cam tower leak probably happens to less than 1% of Tundras. By the time the warranty ends, that F150 will already be in the scrapyard. And our Tundras will still be worth $30k. :notsure:
     
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    I was looking for one too as I really like Raptors. I wanted something for the long haul (no more one night stand) so I picked up a Tundra and now building Raptor Beater.
     
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    I drove a 5 liter F150 before getting my Tundra. I liked it a lot, and I’m on my 7th Toyota truck now. (I get bored easily)

    My reason for not buying the Ford is how much I hate the trucks I have at work. Constantly having issues and they suffer from poor build quality.

    I have the cam tower leak and it’s getting fixed later this month under warranty. Yeah, that kind of sucks, but I’m confident it will be fixed right based on the number of positive experiences here after it was repaired.

    Only Ford I would buy is the Raptor. But, $$$.
     
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    One of the reason I didn’t buy raptor was $$$
     
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    Yeah, I still buy Tundras, and while mine is not a Raptor beater, it’s no slouch. The lack of tech in the Tundra is a problem, needs to be less of a gap in that regard.

    Try and hate on this...
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    Before my Tundra, I was looking at the Raptors as well but I kept having flash backs of walking to work. I just couldn't do it. They are really nice though. :anonymous::crapstorm:
     
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    I know interior finish and tech in raptor is way ahead. I guess that’s why my electrical upgrades not ending in Tundra.
     
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    About 2 years before I bought my Tundra I was in serious talks with dealers (I did the email bidding war thing) and was extremely close to pulling the trigger on a 2016 XLT with the 5.0. I drove everything except for a RAM and thought the F150 rode the nicest and had the best interior and features. Looks are obviously subjective. I think part of the reason I didn't consider a Tundra very seriously was because I drove an SR5, which just feels extra-cheap. The SR5 really doesn't match up well with the XLT. I literally had an "I'll take it" reply all drafted up to send to a dealer, but I ended up holding off.

    I did some more research between then and last September and decided I didn't want to constantly worry about reliability. Most of the publications (Motor Trend, Car & Driver, etc.) get it right about the Tundra's features and powertrain compared to the Big 3, but of course they rarely, if at all, mention reliability/dependability. I'm glad I waited, because the 2018 Tundra did add some really nice features like the LED headlights, newer/better guage cluster, and Safety Sense. I can see why people give the Tundra so much crap, but if you are sick and tired of worrying about going back to your dealer for service and repairs it's hard to go wrong with a Tundra.
     
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