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TRD Sway bar removal help!

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by bandit, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. Jul 14, 2016 at 10:33 AM
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    I feel slightly incompetent even with all my fancy tools at the moment. Trying to remove the trd pro rear sway bar and after 3 hours it's just not coming off. The main bolt right behind the top of the rear wheels is what isn't budging. Not the u bolts on the axle.

    Methods I've tried;

    Ratchet with breaker bar.
    1/2 inch air impact
    3/4 inch air impact
    1 inch Air impact
    Soaked it in kroil
    Heated up the frame around it

    Methods that haven't worked; All of the above

    I have no effing clue how this one bolt has not come off with the insane loads of torque I've put on it!

    Any ideas!? Need to get this damn thing off and sell it. I Have no use for it.
     
  2. Jul 14, 2016 at 10:35 AM
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    I'm tempted to grind the damn bolt off at this point. It's the only thing I haven't tried yet.
     
  3. Jul 14, 2016 at 11:04 AM
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    Sounds like you've got all options that I can thing of covered. If you grind the head off the bolt, just be careful of the heat so you don't melt the bushings. Maybe alternate sides giving time for it to cool. Do you think that you have enough air for your impacts? That's the only thing that comes to mind.....(shrug).
     
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  4. Jul 14, 2016 at 11:11 AM
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    If it comes to grinding the bolt off it'll be discount priced. lol

    You think I might be able to heat it let it cool heat again and see if I can get more expansion that way? I honestly did not think of that. I will try it and let you know how it works!

    As far as the air compressor goes it's a big bitch. lol certainly full when I went at it for minutes on end with the impact. My thought at first was maybe but highly unlikely that a 1inch extension was going twist. So I picked up an impact grade 1inch extension which is basically what I'm going to end up selling this damn thing for now just so I can break even lol.
     
  5. Jul 14, 2016 at 11:27 AM
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    Wow, sounds like you have tried just about everything. Even though the Kroil is pretty thin, I would recommend mixing it half and half with mineral spirits to further dilute it. Apply to the bolt inside and out and let it sit for several hours. The further diluted Kroil may chase the threads a little better than using straight Kroil. Then I would hit it again with the impact... I've used this technique with the Kroil to remove seized screws/bolts on old, collectible firearms. Good luck!
     
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  6. Jul 14, 2016 at 11:31 AM
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    Good idea! I hadn't even thought of diluting kroil further! Options, options are good to have at this juncture lol. shit and I just realized I don't have a .030 cutting wheel -_- ok so grinding is out of the question and has now been replaced with plasma cutter :D as a last resort of course or until my patience where's thin with this thing.
     
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  7. Jul 14, 2016 at 11:36 AM
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    OH! I THOUGHT OF AN IDEA.


    step 1, E brake on.

    Step 2-6,1 inch breaker bar, with extension, Position it to 90 degrees, tow strap on the bar and to the tow hook of another truck, yank it!

    It worked when I moved my full hot tub....just saying
     
  8. Jul 14, 2016 at 11:37 AM
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    Yes, I think that patience is your friend with this project! Even if you ground/cut the head of the bolt off, it would still leave a big assed bolt behind. And, since that bolt head is large, I would be concerned with damaging the bushing with heat. Take deep breaths, keep applying the diluted Kroil, and smacking it around with the impact. You may even have to let the diluted Kroil work over night. If you have a heat gun, you may want to warm the bolt/threads up before applying the diluted Kroil. You'll get it; just keep smiling!
     
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  9. Jul 14, 2016 at 11:45 AM
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    I'm thoroughly stunned that a 1 inch air impact won't break this loose....:( my voice might start getting squeaky now.:help: Anyone have a 2inch air impact?!
     
  10. Jul 14, 2016 at 11:51 AM
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    Use a 1 inch breaker bar with a cheater pipe..
     
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    Tried it, 3 ft. breaker bar and 6ft pipe. No bueno. I went to that after the 1inch impact failed me.
     
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    Patience is definitely good policy. Soak it and leave it for a while. A thought on the impact, make sure that the tank regulator is allowing enough air for the impact to run to full effect.
     
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    As a last resort instead of cutting the bolt, drill the head off. Start with a small drill bit dead centre of the bolt head and up size the bits until you can snap the bolt head off
     
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    Use a blow touch heat up bolt not red hot but close put the socket on cheater bar and see what happens then.
     
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    I've got the pressure limiting the gun to 1100 ft lbs of torque instead of the max 1370 the impact is capable of. I don't recall the exact pressure I've got the regulator at, I can check when I get home. Last time I maxed a impact gun out for the duration that i've been going at this stupid bolt for, I destroyed the damn thing. expensive Lesson learned.
     
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    That's a great idea! except the amount of time it would take to destroy that massive grade 8 bolt with a drill bit and the cost of the multiple high dollar bits it would take just to chomp away at the bolt wouldn't be worth the expensive. And destroying the ones I have I'm not too fond of for one bolt that I could torch off. cost vs. effectiveness thing.
     
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    I'm trying to avoid destroying the bushing at the current moment. However, once I pass that point I will certainly try it! I'm tempted to just pour liquid nitrogen on the bolt right after heating up the frame and see if that'll be enough. Only concern is destroying the bushing still. I'd like to sell it to someone not f'd up lol.
     
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    Grind it off.. to keep from destroy the bushing..
     
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    Can we not talk about the sheep in my back seat....:facepalm:That was supposed to be a private thing!
     
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    A simple trick from the machinist world (if you decide to sacrifice the bushing) torch hot with a sudden cold water quench .....most time you can unscrew by hand.
     
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    :popcorn: :popcorn:
     
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    Took a much needed break.....:oldglory:
     
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    Bingo.
     
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    This is likely the route that I'm going to go tomorrow. Let the diluted kroil soak for hours and got nothing. Did the multiple heat cycles still no budging. I'm honestly amazed at how this thing is still in there. It hasn't even budged. AT ALL. It's just two bushings, I can make up a set on the lathe if I absolutely need to. I'll likely just sell the damn thing at discount. 100 bucks or something and whoever buys it can deal with the bushings. unless they buy me beer, then things might change.
     
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    I'll let you guys know what happens tomorrow when I tackle this monster! And thank you everyone for chiming in and shedding some input! You guys are a mini brain trust. Definitely expanded my narrowed ways of looking at how to tackle this and future projects!
     
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    I'm sorry that the suggestions haven't panned out for you. Did you install the sway bar originally? If not, I'm wondering if someone used a serious grade of Loctite on it when it was installed.
     
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