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Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Breakaway11, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. Oct 25, 2016 at 1:03 PM
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    Bought some factory take-offs for winter and plan on swapping pretty soon as we've started getting snow. I know the 2016 Tundra can only hold 5 TPMS values in memory and am wondering if you guys have had any success with some of the TPMS tools on the market. I know there's the ATEQ quickset that holds winter/summer sets in memory (approx $179-$200) but is it easier/cheaper to get a TPMS programmer (approx $120-$150) and just program every time I do a seasonal swap?
     
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    Watching this thread as I have the same question. Hopefully some guys on here can provide some answers.
     
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    The user manual doesn't even mention anything about resetting the TPMS. I am aware of the button you're talking about but I think all that does it communicate between the truck and the tires already programmed into the system (max of 5)
     
  4. Oct 25, 2016 at 1:15 PM
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    That button does not "learn" new codes.
     
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    is there a cheap home user alternative?
     
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    4" PVC pipe, cap one end, toss sensors inside. Glue a threadable cap on the other end to remove sensors when batteries die. Drill, tap, or buy fitting for shrader valve.

    Now pressurize the cylinder to 35 psi. Place cylinder inside cab, in the bed, or wherever you desire on the vehicle. Get creative. You can even mount under truck.

    Press the reset button to clear the tire pressure warning. Never worry about TPMS again until batteries die in 5-6 years. Now you can swap between different wheels and tires and not worry about it.

    This actually requires some due diligence on your part to keep proper tire pressure and check more frequently.
     
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    i meant a tool that will allow the new sensors to be learned by the ECU
     
  8. Mar 12, 2017 at 6:34 AM
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    where can you get the software
     
  9. Mar 12, 2017 at 7:35 AM
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    Oh I know what you meant, I just offered a different path.

    TechStream would be my next stop, and you can buy the software online, buy a cable to connect a laptop to the truck. My buddy had 70.00 into his setup.
     
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    Ditto, from Bulgaria.....
     
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    @Ericsopa , @RowdyRon Do you guys have a countdown of how many times you can use yours? My techstream is counting down every time I hook up. I think I'm down to 23 more uses. I couldn't get it to register online.
     
  12. Mar 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM
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    Mine has been counting down from 5000 days, or some other crazy timeframe since I got it up and running last year. No per-use countdown. I figure by then I'll download a newer version and start over. With the free downloads out there, the real value is the Mini-VCI cable anyway. Edit: The download link I had is now dead, you'd have to search on your own. Sorry.
     
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  13. Mar 12, 2017 at 12:56 PM
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    Yep, mine is by days, too. Don't recall how many, but do remember it being well over ten years. At my age it may well outlive me! Haha.

    Also, didn't require any registration.
     
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    You mean like we had to do most all of our lives until Big Brother started telling us what to do and how to do it? :D
     
  15. Mar 19, 2017 at 5:31 AM
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    Have you actually tried this? It seems to me that it would not work if I understand what you're describing. The "35 psi" would mean nothing to the sensors, since the pressure would be the same all around the entire unit. In a tire, the pressure is on the sensor inside the tire, a relative pressure, isolated from ambient pressure outside the tire, where the tire stem would be, and the sensor would be subject to 35 psi greater than that outside pressure. In your 4" PVC tube merely tossing the sensors inside doesn't allow for any relative pressure difference between the stem, which would normally only see ambient pressure, and the sensor itself.
     
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    Good question and no I haven't ever tested this out. My first vehicle with TMPS was my 12' Corvette and it was a pain in the ass. I had more problems with that system than anything else. I did hear a long time ago that this was a fix. Never looked into it. I did today and now I have to correct this thread.

    The Tire Pressure Monitoring System doesn't even measure air pressure, it measures wheel speed and works with the anti-lock brake system to accomplish this. So.....this idea is stupid and will not work.

    So I will copy everyone on this thread so we can correct the issue. Thanks @Ericsopa

    @Breakaway11 @gdiep @fcs1965 @RowdyRon @joonbug @landphil @TundraDan723
     
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    But then.....if this is true, how does the TPMS system monitor the pressure in the spare? If I recall, our TPMS ECUs can supposedly be set up to monitor the pressure in the spare as well as the tires on the road.

    Edit......AHA!!! here's the answer.....two different types of systems http://www.bridgestonetire.com/trea...ire-pressure-monitoring-system-how-tpms-works
     
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    Guess we all learned something new today.

    I'm so glad my GMC does not have the TPMS installed. What a pain in the ass.
     
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    The tpms does measure air pressure. If you open up techstream, it will show each individual tire's air pressure. Light will go off if pressure drops below 23 psi. At least that's what mines set at.
     
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    I was wondering that as well. On my Corvette, I could pull up all the tires up on the screen and monitor each individual tire pressure.

    Looks like there might be a few different systems depending on manufacturers specs.
     
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    Yes, our Tundra systems measure the actual pressure, unlike the indirect systems, which use tire rotation to determine if a tire has low pressure.
     
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    It's just a shame that they install this entire system, which is a pita especially when you get new wheels, but can't display it on the dash. My Jeep displayed each wheel on the dash and it made it worth having, but without that it's almost worthless.
     
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    If that is the case, the pvc idea should work.
     
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    No, 2nd and 3rd gen Tundras use direct TPMS, with pressure sensors in the wheels. Later first gens did as well.

    The system you refer to that uses variances in wheel speed is known as indirect TPMS, and standard rubber valve stems are used, rather than individual pressure sensors. Indirect TPMS is a thing of the past, current standards require direct TPMS on all light duty vehicles. Long sweeping turns can trigger a false warning, and all 4 tires with equally low pressure will not trigger the light. So it was abandoned for direct TPMS.

    I do know a guy or three on Tacomaworld built a "pipe bomb" to successfully bypass their TPMS, though there are other ways that are easier.

    Personally, $65 CAD for one sensor from the dealer fixed my issue on the Tundra, and my Tacoma's TPMS was pretty decent to me. I'm keeping it. Of course, I get a deal on diagnostic labour.:)

     
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    Not sure if it's worth the trouble, but yes I think it would.
     
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    Yep, I agree Joon. This is funny, but I was on the fence about getting a 3/4 ton vs 1 ton. The extra load capacity and little things like not having to worry about TPMS system made it and easy sway.
     
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    Thanks for the schooling Phil. Good information there boss!!!
     
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    I'm not sure it would be worth it either, but if you are running a few different sets of wheels, it might be worth it.

    That would have to be determined by the user though.
     
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    Not sure if it's still true today, but a few years ago when my tpms ran out of battery, you had to buy whole new ones, couldn't just swap the battery. How stupid.
     
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    Yep, I had to replace the ones on my 06 4Runner when I put new tires on it. 3 weeks later it was totaled. Go figure.
     

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