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  1. Jul 30, 2017 at 1:16 PM
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    Wife has a 2013 Toyota Avalon. Paint is super thin.
    I bought a 2017 1794 Edition, new. Black paint. I always claybar new vehicles before I detail. This truck has extremely thin paint. So thin that I can't use a claybar to decontaminate the paint. It scratched the paint. Can't remove dead bugs after a long trip. Is this thin paint normal? I opened a formal complaint with Toyota. No help. Went to service manger. No help. Customer service rep just told me to STOP using a claybar. Need some help here.
     
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  2. Jul 30, 2017 at 1:19 PM
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    Haven't heard of this. I'm sure someone that knows more will chime in.
     
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  3. Jul 30, 2017 at 1:48 PM
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    Many Tks. Truck is just sitting in my shop. Won't drive it until I can decontaminate the paint and then apply a paint sealant then wax.
     
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    Don't blame you if you want it done right!
     
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  5. Jul 30, 2017 at 1:55 PM
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  6. Jul 30, 2017 at 2:06 PM
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    Our paint does suck, but kudos to you for being on top of detailing!
     
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    Tks. Been detailing for over 10 years and this TOYO paint has me in an uproar. Probably two?? coats of clear, one of black and just a tad of undercoat.
     
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  8. Jul 30, 2017 at 2:18 PM
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    I have only recently picked up an interest in vehicle detailing. @WarEagleSteve is our guru for the most part. At least, he's answered my 10k questions.
     
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  9. Jul 30, 2017 at 2:19 PM
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    Tks. Will pop over and check out.
     
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  10. Jul 30, 2017 at 2:19 PM
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    I am a fanatic about detailing and I also realized quickly that the clear coat is super thin. Makes me want to clear film the whole truck and just might do that.
     
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    Thought about the same thing but decided against it. TOYO NEEDS to address this issue. For what I paid for this truck, won't give up the ship until I am sunk. ( slowly taking on water)
     
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    Ah U seeie new picturie
     
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  14. Jul 30, 2017 at 2:41 PM
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    Need to go to a reputable Body shop who should have a pant thickness " Mill Gauge " and find out what the "Millage"is !!!
     
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    Average mill thickness is 4-7 mills.....if its under 4.....i would seek legal counsel
     
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  16. Jul 30, 2017 at 2:51 PM
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    First thing i did when i bought my 2017 "BLACK" Tundra was take a 3m blue foam polishing pad and 3M Perfect it swirl remover compond and buffed the ENTIRE TRUCK...ILL POST A PICK NEXT
     
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  17. Jul 30, 2017 at 2:52 PM
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    20170610_163455.jpg This is the result
     
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    Just ordered one yesterday which I should have done years ago.
    However, this black paint is just to thin to even think about wet sanding or putting a buffer to.
    May have to resort to an acid bath.
     
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  19. Jul 30, 2017 at 2:58 PM
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    You might have got a Truck go through the assembly line with negligence...your truck have any "Orange Peel" ....or is the finish really flat ?
     
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    My Clearcot has quite a bit of "Peel" ....dont know if you understand what i mean by "Orange Peel" ??
     
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    IMG_1242.jpg
    OUCH!! Pictures tell it all.
    Nice job.
     
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    That is damned good work right there...
     
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    Thank you !!...Painter of 26 years...WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE
     
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    Mustang looks PHENOMENAL!!!!...NICE DETAIL
     
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    it shows... To get that out of a factory paint job is pretty baller...
     
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    Yea, have ran across a lot of orange peel since I started detailing 10 years ago.
    This black truck has a lot of it but decided I could live with that. Just didn't count on the thin paint.
     
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    Bought it used Feb 2016. Three + weeks of non stop work to get it that way.
     
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    I didnt clay bar !!!...I wiped the whole truck down with Dupont wax & grease remover...MUCH FASTER THAN A CLAY BAR !!!...And when wiping it down, i can tell if it needs a Clay Bar or not.....WHICH MY TRUCK DIDNT NEED IT
     
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    :thumbsup: :itllbuffout:
     
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    This method prior to re-paint?? IF? I can get TOYO to pay for a repaint, interested??
    Every new vehicle has contamination on them. Rail dust from trains, etc. I never put a paint sealant on ones I buy until I decontaminate the paint.
     
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