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This shit is crazy NEED HELP!!!!

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by Tundra_power, Jan 23, 2021.

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What is the problem!!!

  1. Wheel bearing

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  2. Driver side lower control arms bushings

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  3. This shit is crazy...

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  1. Jan 23, 2021 at 2:40 PM
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    Tundra_power

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    I have done so much research my eyes are coming out.. ok I guess no one that owns a tundra has this problem.. I'm the lucky one I guess...

    I'm going to put this as simple as I can!!!!!
    When I turn right mostly at full lock my driver side literally lowers a good 2 or 3inches.. video coming soon.

    Another symptom is that it has intermediate vibration going over 70mph.
    I cannot feel it under 70mph and also it completely stops when slightly turning left on a curve on the highway...

    Ok so about 2 months ago I replace my stock shocks with 4600 red and blue nothing crazy and added 0.25 spacer to get 0.50 of lift nothing crazy right.... And than I got all brand new toyo at3 and had the alignment done correctly. So the next morning I did a u-turn turning right and I swear I thought my tire came off.. so than I went on the highway and vibration came out of know where like wtf is going on...

    Things I have replace since then:
    -upper control arms both sides with OEM.
    -lower ball joint on driver side OEM
    -both inner and outer tie rods
    -retorque all bolts including shocks away bar Everything!!!

    Their is no sound no poping nothing...
    Seems like my truck has air bags or something...
    Now my truck is 2008 tundra 2wd with 117,000 miles.
    Could it be which is the only two options I can think of is my wheel bearing or my lower control arms bushings...
     
  2. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:01 PM
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    2mchfun

    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Was all ok before you made changes?
     
  3. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:03 PM
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    Um... you hit the things I would look at first.

    Pics and a vid!
     
  4. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:03 PM
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    Yes everything was fine. The only thing I can think of I had the passenger side Jack up for maybe 14 hours. I got rain on..
     
  5. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:04 PM
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Get it jacked up and start pushing and pulling, something is loose and I think it is tight with truck weight on it while you are looking
     
  6. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:05 PM
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    This sounds like two completely different issues: 1) the vehicle dropping 2-3 inches when cranking the wheel over to the right in a turn, and 2) road vibration over 70mph.

    #1 issue is strange. If it were my Tundra, the first thing I would check is whether or not my driver side coilover is blown. That is the only thing I can think of that would cause that kind of drop in a tight turn. #2 issue is way more difficult to diagnose. Can you tell if the vibration is coming from the front or the back of the vehicle? A bad wheel bearing is not difficult to diagnose. First, a wheel bearing going bad makes a distinct sound: like an propeller aircraft taking off... and the sound ONLY increases with speed. To rule out a bad wheel bearing, jack up the suspected wheel and try pulling it back and forth (perpendicular to the vehicle). If there is ANY play, then you probably have a bad wheel bearing. Other causes could be feathered tire tread, slightly off balance wheel/tire, U-joint going bad on the drive shaft, output shaft bearing going bad, differential requiring service. As you can see, it will be wwwaaayyyy easier to diagnose if you can isolate where the vibration is coming from.
     
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  7. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:08 PM
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Maybe something inverted, backwards, upside down, or on the wrong side during assembly
     
  8. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:12 PM
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    So for point #1.. is it really 2”..? I think almost all of our trucks do this to some degree when at full crank, I know mine certainly does from side to side, and have talked about the same thing with @TG705 and he also noticed this in his truck.. I don’t think it’s 2” but certainly a noticeable amount.

    other thoughts.. what did you loosen/touch when you did the install..? If you dropped the sway bar, make sure you only tighten it back up once the truck in on the ground and loaded or it will bind and cause all sorts of issue from side to side.. ask me how I know that one :facepalm:.

    best of luck!
     
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  9. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:13 PM
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  10. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:15 PM
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    Vibration is is coming from the floorboard and through the steering wheel.
     
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    You had alignment done, I'd talk to whoever did that and tell them you're having issues. Some places will recheck alignment they performed if it's within a certain timeframe. Maybe they screwed something up... That's where I would start.
     
  12. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:16 PM
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    I checked the carrier bearing there is no slop and it's tight...
     
  13. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:17 PM
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    Everything in the front end is tight torque to specs. The only thing I didn't torque is the lower control arms...
     
  14. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:20 PM
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    Ok I'm going to check the wheel bearing now... I would say that you can still feel the vibration at low speeds and than it dissipates then it comes back.
     
  15. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:22 PM
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    For safety reasons stop driving it until you check out suspension and drivelines
     
  16. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:24 PM
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    That dip looks pretty normal to me. I think things are isolated and that you should focus on the vibration issue. I can go film my truck if you want, just wouldn’t know a good way to upload the video
     
  17. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:27 PM
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    But my passenger doesn't even move when I turn left. You can definitely feel the dip in the cab.. this never happened before...
     
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  18. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:35 PM
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    I took some photos but it's night time so yes..
    The truck is Jack up on the driver side.. IMG_20210123_183040102.jpg IMG_20210123_183046371.jpg IMG_20210123_183101242.jpg IMG_20210123_183106008.jpg
     
  19. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:38 PM
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Something could go askew on the opposite side and transfer like a teeter totter effect check both
     
  21. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:41 PM
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    Yeah pretty much replaced everything except the lower control arms for both sides everything is tight no popping nothing which is crazy...
     
  22. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:42 PM
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Defective parts are possible too even new they can be bad
     
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    Just went out to my truck and fully turned the wheel to the right. My truck dips too, I think its normal but you just picked up on it
     
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    Okay I did what you told me there is a 0 movement in the wheel like I said everything is really tight
     
  25. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:44 PM
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    Yeah but the thing is mine never dip like this before I replaced the shocks which I got from a member on here. They were take offs with only 1000 miles on them OEM parts.
     
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    Check your cam tabs. Make sure they’re torqued to like 200lbs. And make sure the tabs aren’t flattened.
     
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    Hard to tell by the pic but this one looks a little suspect.
     
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    You mean that it's lose or a bad bushing?
     
  29. Jan 23, 2021 at 3:51 PM
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Maybe crazy but I must ask you to ask yourself... any stress relieving beverages during assembly? Anything is possible!
     
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    You know, that's a great point. Like, for instance if the passenger side wheel was hitting the body mount, it could possibly push the passenger side of the vehicle up. Not saying that's what is going on here, but that is definitely possible.

    OK, well if you feel it in the steering wheel, it is likely coming from the front wheels. And your rig is a 4x2. And you did the wheel bearing test and it's tight. If you are confident that both front tire treads are NOT feathered, and all of your lug nuts are tight, then I would really consider getting both front wheels/tires rebalanced.
     
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