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SumoSprings SSR-610-47

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by harrydunn, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. Jun 13, 2018 at 10:02 AM
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    Wanting just a bit less squat when towing my auto trailer around. Decided on the -47 1500-lb rated SumoSprings after much research. Felt the 2,800's would be too stiff (TWSS). They'll be here tomorrow. I will post some after pics this weekend hopefully. Planning some long trips out west from Missouri this summer with the old Land Cruiser. This is my first Tundra but my brother is on his 3rd so I'm very familiar with them. Looking forward to towing with it. Still need to fine tune the positioning on the trailer a bit for the tongue weight I'm looking for. It doesn't squat quite as bad with the lighter '72 GMC on it.

    https://www.supersprings.com/shop/ssr-610-47/

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  2. Jun 14, 2018 at 5:52 PM
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    Very easy installation. Most should be able to do in 30-60 minutes working at a relaxed pace. I did not not realize the SumoSprings screwed into the base. Makes sense, however, so you can easily swap them out for a lighter or stiffer pair or if you damage one.

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  3. Jun 14, 2018 at 7:14 PM
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    I run the same summo with aleaf rearch and coach builder shackles 3 inch. They work great prevent squat and smooth out the bumps.
     
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  4. Jul 3, 2018 at 6:20 AM
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    Well gang, I have to be honest. I took these off and went with the tried and true Firestone Ride-Rite airbags. Free returns to Amazon so no big deal there. I just wasn't completely happy with the squat. I suppose I could have gone with the 2800# SumoSprings. In all fairness, I pull my Land Cruiser pretty far up on my car trailer since it's only a 14' trailer. Installing the airbags over the holiday and will report back.
     
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  5. Jul 3, 2018 at 7:32 AM
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    Longer list than the wife needs to know about....
    did you feel like they just didn't work well enough? How much tongue weight are you putting on the truck? Do you ever use a weight distribution hitch (doesnt' look like it based on the photo)?
     
  6. Jul 3, 2018 at 7:36 AM
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    At the end of the day, I just want to be able to have control over my ride height. I'm running bags on my Land Cruiser and love being able to modify them based on my tongue weight.
     
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    thanks, I've been pondering the same mod so trying to learn from your experience. let us know once you have the air bags in and how they work. cheers
     
  8. Jul 3, 2018 at 7:40 AM
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    Sure thing. Will do. I went ahead and bought air bag cradles as well if you are familiar with those.
     
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  9. Jul 5, 2018 at 6:40 AM
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    Got the bags in. Installation was fairly straight forward if you are mechanically-inclined. Would certainly be easier on a lift. I opted to keep the wheels on and did not jack the truck up. One thing to watch for is to make sure the bracket sits correctly on the axle before you tighten everything up. I've read about a few folks with that issue. I pumped them up to 50psi to check for leaks and they held steady for several hours. Aired them down to single digits and the ride is fine. I can't tell any difference. With 50 psi driving around, the rear was jacked up probably 4". It looked hilarious.
     
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  10. Jul 8, 2018 at 6:38 PM
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    0-to-40 psi with cheap 12v compressor running from the cab.


     
  11. Jul 10, 2018 at 4:44 PM
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    All level at 40 psi.

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  12. Jul 24, 2018 at 6:09 AM
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    I was looking at purchasing some sumosprings but not for towing more for the smoother ride ......would you recommend them for better ride?
     
  13. Jul 24, 2018 at 6:20 AM
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    Unless you're towing or have a load in the bed, the sumo springs will not even make contact so I don't think they'll help with a smoother ride. Just my opinion. I come from a long line of rough riding vehicles so I think the Tundra rides great for a truck.
     
  14. Jul 24, 2018 at 6:32 AM
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    No, because there’s a lot of travel before you hit the rear stock bumpstops. If you add Sumos, you’ll just be hitting them sooner over bumps and potholes.

    If you want a better ride, install a rear sway bar to reduce body roll, change the front bumpstops to SuperBumps (there are 4 in the front, replace the 2 behind the axle). Right now when you hit bumps, those OEM front stops have very little travel and smack like rocks. This is a Taco, but you get the idea:



    I also noticed improved ride quality after installing shackles due to the new greased poly bushings. Ride quality is mostly perceived with rear suspension.
     
  15. Jul 24, 2018 at 7:46 AM
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    The Firestone Ride-Rite bags ended up being the superior choice for my needs on our 2,500-trip we just got back from. Ultimately, 30-psi was the sweet spot towing my car trailer. 7000-lb trailer and I had a 900-lb hitch weight. I ran by the local truck stop and used their scales empty and loaded and then did the math. $11.50 isn't bad if you want to get your balance correct.
     

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    I got sumo springs for my truck but my installer said it couldn’t be installed since the bracket isn’t flat. So the center pin of the leaf pack should hold the sumo springs in place so they don’t shift on the leaf pack! That’s what my installer said.
     
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    The brackets should have a slight step to them, if you received the right ones. Install was a piece of cake.
     
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    Did you go with the basic air bag kit or did you get the on board compressor and all that jazz?
     
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    I read a guy put spacers under the sumo spring so it was making light contact with empty bed. I guess they would affect the ride at that point. He said it was for the better and he liked it. Not sure where I read that but I think he had an F350
     
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    Basic air bag kit. It's great.
     
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    Digodel do you have the lift up front I want to do 3 coach builders shackles but I’m not sure if it would not be to much Rake
     
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    I used two CB shackles and yes that was too much rake for me anyway. I had the rear springs rearched. I do carry about 790lbs in the bed at all times with the rack, Decked system , tools, kennels etc.
     
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    How much for fire stone airbags for our trucks?
     
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    Ok tanks for the reply
     
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    Allows you to remove the lower airbag connection from your leafs for max articulation. Gives the bags a place to land on the way back down.
     
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    Got it. Thanks!
     

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