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Quick, easy, cheap, and versatile dual battery setup.

Discussion in 'Electrical' started by Terndrerrr, Jul 25, 2021.

  1. Jul 25, 2021 at 6:55 PM
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    Terndrerrr

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    I thought I’d share how I wired up my dual battery system. My goal was to power a Dometic fridge for a full day and night with the truck not running. I used a marine battery box for the house battery, which was kept in the bed. The box was $65 from Amazon and came wired with a 12VDC jack, USB jack, trolling motor terminals, and a battery level indicator. The idea was that I would be driving each day and charging the house battery between campsites. PLUS, I can keep the fridge cold in the truck on the way to the lake, then put the battery box and fridge in the boat and keep everything nice and cold out on the lake for the day. This is the main reason for the battery box–flexibility for use in and out of the truck.

    Special thanks to @blackoutt and his responses in this thread!

    This setup worked perfectly on our recent trip to CO. Bonus: what I ended up with was cheaper and simpler than I initially thought it would be.

    Parts needed:

    You can pick these up at Home Depot:
    #8 self-tapping sheet metal screws (note: this link is for a 100-pack. you only need two. These will be used to mount the PAC500 relay/isolator in the engine bay)
    • 1ft black 12-gauge copper wire from the rack of wire spools in the electrical section
    12 gauge ring terminals (you only need 2 of em)

    From AutoZone:
    • (2) Duralast Platinum AGM 24F batteries (why these batteries? It's easy to find an AutoZone pretty much anywhere)

    From Amazon:
    Red 2Ga copper wire 25'
    Black 2Ga copper wire 5'
    Military grade battery terminal set
    (6) 2Ga 3/8" (M10) ring terminals (buy the 10pack)
    Assorted 3:1 Dual wall glue lined marine heat shrink
    • (1) Add-a-fuse
    (2) mini 20A blade fuses
    (2) 200A 2Ga ANL fuses
    PAC500 relay/isolator
    Trolling motor battery box
    Thermo-Tec 8x40 battery insulation
    GM diode

    Tools needed:
    Wrenches (Allen, box-end ratcheting)
    Drill
    Impact driver
    10-Ton Hydraulic crimper tool
    Heat gun or hair dryer for the heat shrink
    Benchmade pocketknife

    This is an easy project. The only tough part is that you are essentially making your own 2gauge battery cables out of the wires and the terminal ends. You’ll need the hydraulic crimper tool to secure the ring terminal ends on the 2Ga wire. It is very intuitive to operate.

    1. Under the hood:
    I read that AGMs don’t typically like to be in the engine bay, so I wrapped this one in some battery insulation. Here, just to the right of the battery, you can see the PAC500 relay/isolator. The two large posts connect to the (+) terminals of the two batteries. The smaller posts provide power to the PAC500. It doesn’t matter which of the smaller posts you use for ground and which you use to run to the fuse box with the add-a-fuse. The way the PAC500 works is it relays power from the alternator to charge both batteries while the truck is running, and it isolates the two from each other when the truck is off, so your fridge won't drain your starting battery.
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    Note: look at the red cables. 1 ring terminal end on the battery, and one on the PAC500. The ends that connect to the 200A fuse are bare. Use your sweet Benchmade to cut the insulation and expose 1/2" of the wire and crimp it into the fuse ends using the included Allen wrench. You'll use (4) ring terminals wiring your two batteries to the PAC500 and (2) ring terminals wiring your short ground cable to the second battery.

    2. In the fuse box:
    I used my add-a-fuse to plug the PAC500’s hot wire into the 20A fuse labeled WASHER. The PAC500 needs to see a certain level of constant power. I used my multimeter to check, and this washer fuse spot works perfectly. This is for the windshield washer fluid pump. The way an add-a-fuse works is it jumpers a 2nd circuit into the same fuse slot. So, you have to put an equivalent fuse into the bottom slot on the side of the add-a-fuse to the fuse you removed from the fuse box. In this pic, the bottom fuse is for the Washer fluid pump , and the top fuse is for the PAC500. Crimp your 12Ga ring terminal to the other end, add your heat shrink, and you’re good to go.
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    2a. The GM Diode:
    This replaces the fuse in your Alt-S slot. It allows your battery to charge the AGM batteries to what they want to be charged up to. You have to shave the sides down so that they are flush with the blades just like a mini blade fuse. It only works one way. Below it is the taller black diode between the red 10A fuses. Note the arrow on the top. It appears that the voltage fed to the batteries is regulated because I observe it backing off about .5V after a while on my Fusion app.
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    I ran the other 2Ga hot from the PAC500 to the house battery in the bed along the top of the drivers side frame. It is zip-tied in several places. I crossed to the other side of the truck and came into the bed via the rightmost drain hole. These two battery cables have 2ga ring terminal ends crimped on and are connected to the battery via the pair of military terminals from Amazon. The second 200A fuse is inside the battery box with the house battery:
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    The ground cable for the house battery has been run through the same drain hole in the pic above to an existing bolt on the underside of the cab right above the frame rail in front of the rear passenger side tire:
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    All I need to do is place my fridge in the slide and plug its DC power cord into the 12VDC jack on the battery box. Here’s a pic of the battery box tucked in and strapped to the tie-down in the corner:
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    Last edited: Jul 28, 2021
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  2. Jul 25, 2021 at 6:55 PM
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  3. Jul 25, 2021 at 7:26 PM
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    Nice job! Great post!
     
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  4. Sep 10, 2021 at 7:44 AM
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    @Terndrerrr did this kill the alternator at all having to charge 2 batteries?
     
  5. May 10, 2022 at 11:26 PM
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    Sorry I missed this question several months ago. :facepalm:

    I’ve had the second battery in the bed ever since, and everything is still running just fine.
     
  6. Aug 4, 2022 at 6:37 AM
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    Great idea, nice job! I’d love to do this for mine (’05 access, TRD 4x4 with topper). I need a cooler set up badly.

    I don’t understand this part of your write up… have some Q’s, if you will.

    "2a. The GM Diode:
    This replaces the fuse in your Alt-S slot. It allows your battery to charge the AGM batteries to what they want to be charged up to. You have to shave the sides down so that they are flush with the blades just like a mini blade fuse. It only works one way. Below it is the taller black diode between the red 10A fuses. Note the arrow on the top. It appears that the voltage fed to the batteries is regulated because I observe it backing off about .5V after a while on my Fusion app.”

    Why did you use a GM Diode?
    What do you mean by “you have to shave the sides down?” Why? You say it only works one way. Is there any chance of mistakingly inserting this “Diode” incorrectly, given the arrow direction? I mean, what happens if its the wrong direction, anything?

    You did a great job on this write up! Thanks!
     
  7. Aug 4, 2022 at 6:58 AM
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    Terndrerrr

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    I used it because it changes the voltage to what the AGM batteries want to see. It's a common thing to use.
    Make sure the arrow points at the front of the truck as pictured.
    I don't know what happens if you put it in the wrong way.
    Its blades are the right size, but its larger plastic housing prevents you from being able to seat it into the slot.
    Just shave the excess plastic off the sides until it fits.
     
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  8. Sep 16, 2022 at 9:49 PM
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    All I’d change is to use a Blue Sea ACR instead of that basic relay. It’ll keep batteries separate till your start battery is full, and then connect. The two batteries stay connected till voltage drops below 12.6, and then you’re fridge is on just the house battery.

    should you kill the main battery (leave lights on?) and need to jump start yourself, just hit the switch and your ACR connects batteries so you can start from the house….
     
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