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Questions on rims for Waltrip Tundra

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by RAMTEK, Sep 8, 2019.

  1. Sep 8, 2019 at 7:07 PM
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    Just picked up a 06 Waltrip Tundra 4x4. Love this truck! This is the second 1st gen I've owned and these are great trucks. Noticed the door sticker calls for 18" rims. I know for a fact my other 1st gen took 16" rims, so I called Toyota directly. They confirmed that this truck does indeed take the 18". When I bought the truck, it currently has aftermarket 16" rims. Decent tires, I can probably get another year out of the rubber, but when the time comes to change rubber, I want to put the truck back on 18" rims as was meant to be on this truck.

    I am having a hard time finding OEM 6 lug 18" rims however, and I dont know how to find the "offset". I dont need fancy rims, just the original rims would be good. I dont need "new" as long as they are in good shape with no curb rash. I'll also need a steel 18" rim for the spare.

    I called all wreckers in area but no one has 18" rims for this truck. I called all the dealerships in the area asking for "take offs" but they want a small fortune for their rims.

    So guys, anyone have any advice? Your thoughts and comments (and pictures) would be valued and appreciated. (Also, what "offset" do I need?)

    RAM
     
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    Rockauto might have what your looking for.
     
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    The Darrell Waltrip edition Tundra came with 18"x9" BBS wheels. These trucks are fairly rare. Approximately 2000 were made. I see the rims pop up on CL occasionally, usually for around $800-850 for a set. IMG_3137.jpgIMG_3138.jpg IMG_3139.jpg
     
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    @Vince: None of the "main line" wheel/tire outlets show the 18". The 1st gens were all shipped mostly with 16" and a few 17". Only the Waltrips were shipped with 18" and NO ONE carries these.

    @BestGen: Interesting to know that only 2000 (or so) were made. If I cant find the original TRD's, then I guess any Toyota rim would work. I found this link on our tundras.com marketplace: https://www.tundras.com/threads/trd-off-road-18”-wheels-and-michelin-tires.43130/. How would I know if these would fit? Dont really want to buy something and have it shipped to find out the patter doesnt match my lugs.
     
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    They won't fit. :smack: Count the lugs. You need 6 lug 6x139.7 pattern. Most of the rims from Tacomas, 4Runners, 1G Sequoias, pre-98 Landcruisers, and all other 1st Gen Tundras will fit. :yawn:
     
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  6. Sep 8, 2019 at 11:26 PM
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    But I think OP is asking if he has to put 18" rims and when he called Toyota they made it seem like he does. That can't be right.

    I don't see why he can't go with a 16 or 17" rim. Right?
     
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    Kinda a confusing question, but is he saying that his truck came with OE 18s but a previous owner sold them? The walltrip whees are definitely badass looking
     
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    The 18” wheel is just for aesthetics. The overall tire size will be the same as with your current 16” wheels.
    The 18” wheels will just have a shorter sidewall, and will be MUCH more expensive than their 16” counterpart.
     
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    Are your 16" rims chrome in decent shape. I have a 2002 tundra sr5 and it has very poor looking rims and I would like to go to chrome.
     
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    @FirstGenVol and @Hdjeff: Sorry for being confusing. According to OE specs from Toyota, the truck was originally outfitted from the factory with 18" rims. I bought the truck about a month ago. Somewhere between the time it was sold new, and the time I bought the truck, the previous owner removed the 18" rims and put on 16" rims. I was wanting to go back to the original rim size, because somehow I thought if Toyota built the truck for it, then I'd like to put it back to what it was "supposed" to be.

    @tvpierce: Thanks for that info. For some reason I guess I had it in my head that the smaller rims on the 4x4 would tweak with the speedo, torque, and mpg. If the overall tire size and height of a 16" with rubber and an 18" with rubber are essentially the same, then I can see it basically being an aesthetics issue.

    @josef: yeah, the rims are great shape, but I need to get another set before I can take these off.

    Here's whats on there now:
     
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    Here are two more pics of the wheels. The tires on the truck now are 275/70R16. The original specs call fro P275/55R18. Althought I prefer "Light Truck" tires over "Passenger" tires for my 4x4's. I feel better having that extra sidewall. No fun blowing a tire in the boonies.

     
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    The Waltrip packing was essentially a cosmetic one. I'm not aware of any mechanical differences that would require 18" wheels. There is nothing wrong with running smaller wheels on there. Now, if you wanted to return it to its original look and put the OEM wheels on there that would be cool but you'd likely pay a premium.
     
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    The only thing that'll fk with your speedo, torque, and mpg is overall tire diameter. Wheel diameter is irrelevant. Taller tires will require a gear change to maintain or improve acceleration performance.
     
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    "@josef: yeah, the rims are great shape, but I need to get another set before I can take these off."

    I have good tires but certainly would like better rims. I'm certainly in no hurry just trying to get my dibs in.
    pretty good looking set of rims SoCalPaul found at what I would consider a fair price
     
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    Your current tire is slightly oversided from stock.
    Stock on an SR5 would be 265/70 R16 -- for a total diameter/tire height of 30.6"
    Your currently setup is 275/70 R16 -- for a total diameter/tire height of 31.15"
    The Waltrip setup is 275/55 R18 -- for a total diameter/tire height of 29.9"

    Strickly from an asthetic point of view (IMHO) 18" wheels on these trucks are too large, unless you're running a lift. If you're not running a lift, those skinny little 55 sidewalls are for sportscars -- they look silly. If you are running a lift, you can go with a larger sidewall tire that is appropriate for a truck.

    To me, 265/75 R16 (one size over stock, 31.6") is the ideal size for a stock truck. It fills the wheelwell nicely without it looking "stuffed". Plus they're available in 10 ply which will make for an incredibly durable tire.

    The sizes mentions above are facts, the rest is simply my humble opinion.
     
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    • @tvpierce: This is GREAT info! I really appreciate it. I agree the thinner sidewalls on a truck look silly to me, but I do see a lot of the low profile tires on lowrider trucks around town. For me, not my style.
    I did find BFG KO2's in both LT275/70R16 (overall height 31.1") as well as LT275/70R18 (overall height 33.2"). I am not a aggressive offroader, but I do hunt and have encounters washouts and streams before. In AZ, the terrain is pretty harsh and Im not sure how well the Michelin Defenders would do once I get them off pavement into jagged rocks and cactus. So for me I feel better with the LT sidewalls and load ratings.

    I called Toyota and they were pretty adamant of staying on the 18" on the Waltrip. I realize its probably aesthetics like you said, and I tend to agree with that, but still the truck was made for 18"s.

    My thought would be to get the 18"s back on the truck, add a bit more sidewall height to the tire, not to increase the overall height of the truck (thats not the point) but to add a bit more cushion to the ride. Moving off Defenders to the KO2's will add a bit stiffer ride, a bit more road noise. If I add a bit more sidewall, perhaps that might take some of the stiffness out of the drive on pavement. Am I totally wrong about this?

    I did a rough mockup of the truck with the current 16" on it (top picture), as well as with the BBS 18"s that came with the truck (bottom pic).

    As always, I am very appreciative of your expertise, thoughts and comments.

    Original:

    with OEM rims:
     
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    I'd note your truck wasn't necessarily "made" for 18s. There is no difference in the suspension/brake setup between the 16, 17, and 18 inch wheels that came on the Double Cabs. The dealer likely cannot legally recommend anything other than what the VIN spec says. IMO the 17s look best on the DCs, and provide plenty of sidewall. For a touch taller tire that fits stock suspension, a 265/70R17 gives some additional sidewall, and a little bit of lift, and can be had in P-rated, C-range, and E-range. For your use I'd find a good set of used 17s (either the split 5-spoke or the newer 4Runner snowflake rims) and run C-rated KO2s or some other quality a/t tire in 265/70R17. This size is often cheaper due to it's widespread use.
     
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    That explains why I never heard of it. Neat
     
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