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Question about military force against Russia

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Netmonkey, Mar 1, 2022.

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  1. Mar 1, 2022 at 5:12 AM
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    Netmonkey

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    So, I understand why we are not using military force against Russia right now, but where is the line where the rest of the world gets involved militarily? How far can Russia go before we use military force against them? If they carpet bomb civilians? If they use nukes? or?

    I figure that there has to be a point where the world says, "no more."
     
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    The rest of the world would include the U.S. as it would be NATO to pull the trigger. I could not see one or two countries getting involved on their own. I hope it never comes to that !!!
     
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    I thought it was if Russia attacked a NATO nation.
     
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    I almost think NATO will let Ukraine fall before sending in troops so they don’t risk starting a nuclear war. I’m in the military, and without saying more, there has been 0 talk about deployments.
     
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    Yeah, I did hear that, but is there a situation in which their attacks against Ukraine are so egregious that we step in?
     
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    I would certainly hope so but I'm not going to hold my breath.
     
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    Using thermobaric bombs and cluster bombs on civilians crossed that line already.
     
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    First, think long and hard about who the real villain is here. Quit listening to the news. It's all a lie. Who is backing Ukraine? Exercise your due diligence and learn what the hell is really going on. I'll give you one clue .... Putin is not the villain.
     
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    If we end up in Ukraine, it will become another Vietnam or Korea

    We would have years of fighting in Ukraine, but neither side daring to take it too far and risk war in the motherland.

    Declaring war on Russia doesn't sound like a great idea to me.
     
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    These kind of statements crack me up.
    If you’re so wise and all knowing, why not just come out and say it?
     
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    How does this even correlate?
     
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    This has 0 to do with USA and we shouldn't even be supplying weapons to anyone over there. We have NO treaties or agreements. Nato is forcing Russias hand and not giving them a way out. They will get what they ask for and people will be all shocked "how could they". If you dont like it, you get on a plan and go fight, spots are open.

    NO MORE WARS FOR AMERICA.
     
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    A political stalemate between two forces while the actual fighting takes place in a 3rd nation.
     
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    He’s intelligent enough to know what not to say on here on the open forum.

    Maybe ask the same question in a PM with a little respect.

    This thread will go down as well in due time when a few members take 30 day vacations.
     
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    The way out is to turn around and go back home. No one forced them to invade another country.
     
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    Where do I vote to add a political/major news subforum, since I don't want to go to other forums to talk about world events :rofl:
     
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    I don’t think so. Had iraq and afghanistan not been such completely corrupt blunders, maybe. I don’t think our society can handle more loss, even if the cause is justified this time
     
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    My frustration - without getting political - is why we refuse to be energy independent when we have the resources and ability to do so. We can supply ourselves and our allies for the next century if we take an all of the above approach. Instead we depend on Russia and the Middle East which indirectly funds what we’re seeing. Also, don’t lose site of China. We are so dependent on them economically - they are the real national security threat to us.
     
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    This was my point, but thanks.
     
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    Add me to the PM.
     
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    why

    Who do I owe the “respectful” question to?
     
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    I would like to know. Honestly open to your viewpoint. DM me.
     
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    You don’t. Just seeing if you would and seeing maybe a different viewpoint.
     
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    I did
     
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    How exactly did I not?
     
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    Not saying you didn't. The thread is on a razor's edge and many of us would like to keep it alive. I think it was just a suggestion to minimize the chance of it going overboard and getting locked. I have family in the Baltic and the other side of this story is very different.
     
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    Got it
     
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    Oh man... this thread has gone far from my original question. I guess this should just be closed...
     
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