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Power Window Lock Out Switch

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by Farmer24, May 14, 2018.

  1. May 14, 2018 at 5:57 PM
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    Farmer24

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    Noticed something that seems wrong with the operation of the Power Window Lock-Out Switch.
    With my other Tundra and all other vehicles I have used with power windows that have a lockout switch, when the lock-out switch is activated, the master panel (driver's door) can still operate the windows on all other doors.

    The owners manual seems to indicate that this truck should act the same way as the text reads: "Press the switch down to lock the passenger window switches.". The key phrase being 'passenger windows switches'.

    My truck doesn't act that way. With the switch activated, the only window I can open from the drivers window panel is the drivers window. I cannot operate any of the other door windows unless I de-activate the lock function.

    I feel this is WRONG. Where is the safety in preventing children from opening the window, if I have to disable the lock feature to change one window and at the same time that enables another child to open another window.

    I tried to get the dealer to fix it but they said it was normal operation and even showed me other Tundra's that acted the same way. Regardless of what they said (and showed me), I still feel it is WRONG and a safety exposure,

    I tried to search on this site but nothing in my search results looked promising.

    Before sending a complaint letter to Toyota, I thought I would ask here to see if anyone else has noticed this and maybe found a service bulletin regarding the strange behavior

    Thanks in advance for any direction, suggestions or help you can provide,

    Bob
     
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  2. May 14, 2018 at 6:43 PM
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    Bergmen

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    Funny story. On my 2006 Tundra I noticed one day that I could not operate the passenger window. It was stuck down and I couldn't raise it. It was during the rainy season and I was SOL plus I couldn't lock the truck if it was not raining. So I parked it in my garage and ordered an after market window motor and window lift system for replacement. Got it, installed it and decided to test it before buttoning up the door. It didn't work either!

    After running voltage and fuse tests I notice my lockout switch was depressed. Pushed the button and it worked perfectly. So did the original which I re-mounted. So I have a brand new passenger window motor assembly in my storage room at the barn.

    Dipwinkle Danny at your service!

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  3. May 14, 2018 at 6:51 PM
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    That’s how mine works too. My previous chevy was the opposite. I could lock everyone out but still have control. For me it’s not a problem I don’t have little kids. But it works great for giant Dutch oven‘s.

     
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  4. May 14, 2018 at 6:55 PM
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    :rofl: how ya feeling?
     
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  5. May 14, 2018 at 6:56 PM
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    Welcome from Texas
     
  6. May 14, 2018 at 7:34 PM
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    Little better. Still aching and light headed. In a fog.
     
  7. May 14, 2018 at 7:46 PM
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    Get well
     
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  8. May 14, 2018 at 7:46 PM
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    Thanks brother
     
  9. May 14, 2018 at 7:47 PM
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    Yes Sir
     
  10. May 15, 2018 at 4:14 AM
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    I'm with you OP.On my previous Chevy 2500 when I used the passenger window lock out button I could still run all the windows from the driver's seat.With this Tundra I have activate/deactivate the button to have control of all the windows when using the lockout switch.Still getting used to the differences.
     
  11. May 15, 2018 at 4:38 AM
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    My 07 works the same. Only driver window functions with safety switch depressed.
     
  12. May 15, 2018 at 7:02 AM
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    2012 mine works the same.
     
  13. May 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM
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    Farmer24

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    Well, it seems the consensus is that only the driver's window can be operated from the driver's panel when the lock out switch is activated, even tho the owner's manual appears to indicate that only the passenger panels should be locked out thereby implying the driver's panel should still be active for all windows.

    I feel this 'normal' operation is NOT appropriate and is in fact a safety related issue. I would like to correspond with Toyota regarding this. Can anyone suggest who or where I should send this correspondence to in order to get a definitive response on how the switches 'should' respond to the lock out switch.

    If I am not satisfied, I may forward it to the NTSB.

    Thanks
     
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  14. May 19, 2018 at 4:13 PM
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    I'm with you about being annoying and a safety issue since I have 2 kids, one being 3 1/2 and is able to operate his window. He has learned that he can hold the switch while I use the lockout button and try to closes his window, and when I'm trying to close it he's trying to open it, the window just stays in the same position. It's annoying that the window lock lock me out as well as the passengers. My wife's Hyundai does the same thing as my truck. This issue should go to the NTSB and a standard should be made before a accident happens, but unfortunately safety is written in blood.
     

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