Pedal commander

So I know this has been discussed here, but wanted to share that I was merging on to a highway and my truck felt like it hit a brick wall with no throttle response and in pretty much limp mode, check engine light along with trailer brake, and something with the front radar and engine code 2121 anyway long story short figured it to be pedal commander and ripped it out, literally unplugged and ripped it out with a whole lot of rage behind it . Tore the wires and all, glad I did cause I actually would not even feel good about giving this thing away to someone! I will say it was fun while it was there but not worth risking anyone's safety or potentially causing a major accident ok well that's my Tuesday morning post while I'm cutting this deuce !

 

How long did you have it installed? Bluetooth version?

 

Someone else had a thread on this, same thing happened to them except they got rear-ended while merging because of it. The idea is the pedal commander draws from the 5v throttle response circuit but if the 5v is exceeded it goes into limp mode which sounds like is what happened in your case. I've been looking at the banks pedal monster as it also connects to the OBD port which provides and additional 10v ( I think?) of power so that this will not happen with the pedal monster. They have a really good video on their site explaining it all.

 

Yes blue tooth version and it was in there a while wich was the confusing part and I did watch the banks video. They seemed to be the ones to go with if any at all because of the 12v power through obd port I guess the coolest thing that came out of this is that my head unit actually shows me the fault code and check engine light and I can clear it while driving I though that was neat lol , but that's about it

 

I have the non-bluetooth version that I have had for a couple of years. I ran it in my truck with no issues and now it is in the 4Runner and I have the Bluetooth version in my truck. I'm considering the Banks for the 4Runner now, but I don't know what to do for the Tundra since my ScanGuage3 uses the OBD port.

Has anyone discussed this issue with Pedal Commander?

 

I know you can get an obd2 splitter from banks so there shouldn't be an issue with running both units ...

 

It does seem to be a better unit, especially since you can adjust when it kicks in: under 10 mph or in reverse it can be disabled.

 

I have seen splitters but I'm wondering about the reliability of them.

 

Yeah I mean it should always be 12v no matter what so I can't imagin the draw being that bad honestly but I am in no way an electronics guy like that

 

I gotcha. I'll dig into it some more. There are a couple of electrical gurus in here that may have some input on it.

 

Yeah wish I knew more about electrical but I'm a ding dong when it comes to that

 

It's all good. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.

 

They are just cable pass through. The only issue I see is loading too many peripheral on the ODB2 port. I think they are rated 12v at 4A. I doubt SG3 + Banks will come near that.

 

Thanks for the input. I guess it won't hurt to try. I can get a Banks and splitter and try it in my truck. If I don't have any issues (I assume issues would appear rather quickly) then I could leave it installed and get a 2nd Banks for the 4Runner.

 

No worries. In case it wasn't clear the ODB2 port is rated for 12V 4A max not the cables.

Looks like the Banks isn't just getting power from the ODB2 port it is pulling data too otherwise I would have recommended a cigarette to ODB power cable.

If you get the Banks would like to hear what you think about it. I'm running the HIKEIT XS for about 18 months or so; love it so far.

PC is sitting on the shelf. Not that I had any issues with it I just don't trust it. I would give it away but I would feel bad if the next person had issues with it.

 

So much for that plan......

 

Looks like you will have to upgrade to an iDash and give up the SG3

 

Lol.....I don't even know what the idash can read. I was just reading this on the Pedal Commander. I would really like to know what the true cause is for the ones that have had their PC "fail".

https://pedalcommander.com/blogs/ga...imp mode is,by changing Pedal Commander modes.

 

I'm messing with you. Unless you are running boosted with break out sensors SG3 will do the same as iDash. The logging is neat though.
https://youtu.be/ExpfWaRJpts

Someone posted a video explaining PC failure/limp mode. Banks has an explanation in his documentation too from what I remember.

 

The idash is definitely different than the SG3. The SG3 benefit is the X-guages. If only the SG3 could get its data from somewhere other than the OBD port lol. I may just be overthinking the PC fail rate. I have had mine for over 2 years and then moved it to her 4Runner and then bought the Bluetooth version for the Tundra. The safe bet might be to pull the PC out of the 4R eince it is her daily driver and put in the Banks and just run my PC hoping I never hae any issues.

 

The PC issues seem to be related to a batch of the BT version of it. It is supposed to be rare on Tundra since it has a higher min threshold. Banks video generally explains why it happens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LSBrGBmCgg

 

I'll check it out when I'm a little more awake lol. So if it's the BT version, I may not have to worry about the one in the 4Runner.

 

The craziest thing to me about these things failing is it doesn't happen right away mine has been in there 2 years with no problem, how does it all of the sudden do this ? And even more crazy then that is you don't even no when or if it's gonna happen until some bad could possibly happen, I don't think I'm willing to dive into trying to make it work either, however the banks pedal monster does seem like it puts to rest all issues some of the other ones may have especially with having a constant 12v

 

Curious did you have it connected to your phone's Bluetooth at the time that this triggered you CELs/limp mode?

 

I don't really no honestly cause I never really messed with it that much just left it on city level 2 now the app was on on my phone so I belive there was blue tooth going to it so now I don't no ?

 

It is purely anecdotal that only the BT version has issues I was just curious as to what your set up was at the time of the incident.

According to the Banks video these draw too much current which trips the ECU to CEL it also explains why PC recommends not changing settings while driving too.

You've done neither so it is really odd.

With mass proliferation of BT devices I would think the PC's BT is probably constantly broadcasting that it is available to connect which is dumb and drawing unnecessary power.

The BT feature is only useful when you hide the PC and are constantly changing settings over the air, besides that ECO mode is the only other thing Banks doesn't have. Most if not all Tundras will never see the "up to 20%" savings ECO mode proclaims but it is useful offroad.

 

Well I guess I'm not the only one with this issue just wanted to post incase other members may be experiencing something similar ..... I was so pissed when this happened that when I got into my driveway I unplugged it and
Literally ripped the cable through leaving the pc box stuffed in my dash somewhere, not the smartest thing to do but damn I was just thinking of the what if something happened on the road and I was the one to cause a major accident, honestly I was shaken a bit not gonna lie

 

So I went out and looked at mine. There is no bluetooth light on the PC itself. If I have my bluetooth enabled on my phone, the PC comes up as an available device when I start the truck. This tells me that the bluetooth function is always powered up. I just sent PC an email asking about limp mode issues and explained to them that there has been a couple of failures causing limp mode, and they all seem to be the BT version. I'll post their reply once I receive it. On a side note, I have had the non-BT version that I moved to the 4R since 2018.

 

Oh ok that's awesome I'm wondering just how they respond to "limp mode"

 

@shawn474 was yours Bluetooth as well?