Nitto Terra Grappler 295/70R18 Question

I have a 2019 Crewmax that will be getting the Bilstein 6112 at 1.9/ CB 2 shackles and 5160s rear setup with appropriate shims. I am waiting for the next shipment of SCS Ray 10s and those will be the wheels I am getting.

My tire question is this. The terra grappler 295/70R18 116S SL BSW is listed as 34.29 diameter and 11.77 width with a weight of 50.64 pounds per tire. I have not seen any other tire that light in that size. The RG is nine pounds heavier and ten ply. So that is a rough total of 36 pounds difference which is a load of groceries or water. My question/debate is why not go with the lighter terra grappler instead? I do not tow anything daily or weekly or do any hardcore off roading. Just construction work and driving on dirt roads or trails for hunting.

Thanks for any advice or input for something I may be overlooking.

 

Most shops will not install that size (without E rating) on the Tundra due to the weight of the truck. They will install the LT295/70/18 which is E rated and 63 lbs per tire. I went with the 285/70/18 E-rated RG's on mine at 59 lbs per tire. They are also extremely close in size. For the tire itself, I have ran both and both are good, with the RG being a little more aggressive.

 

That is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for the information.

 

Why would that be a problem when the stock tires aren't LT rated?

 

E is the load rating. There are passenger vehicles much heavier than the Tundra that use (P) tires. LT just means usually that they have thicker side walls and deeper tread.

 

The stock Michelins have a 114 load index, while the TGs are 116, so slightly higher. (And yes, the LT tires do have much higher load indices)

 

So these are an option then?

 

I didnt know there were any options with the nitto's AT at those sizes. Weird

 

This is according to tiresize.com and a rep I spoke to on the phone at Nitto.
50 pounds per tire compared to 60-70 pound range for other models in this size is a huge difference. But I am curious what I am sacrificing or risking by running this tire before I consider it one of my options.

 

Just remember your tire choice that one rare occasion you decide to go get a load of rock or soil...because they will fail. Max load is 2756, our truck weighs 5-6k.

 

Very misleading. You can run those tires on your truck. No passenger vehicle like a sedan, is going to run a 34” tire. Lol. They are made for trucks and suvs. The max load rating is per tire. So 2756 times 4. These tires are very capable of handling the weight of our vehicle and carrying a load. The E rated tire simply has a heavier duty sidewall and deeper tread (more rubber) hence the higher physical weight and weight capacity

 

I'm just saying that the recommended ratings exist for a reason. I wouldn't want to run near the maximum on anything..towing, wheels, speed.

 

I understand completely. And for the ridge grapplers, the total weight gain is forty pounds (ish). So since the majority of people on this forum are not raving about or using this tire, I feel it is safer to do what has already been proven and go with the RG and just say “peace of mind” every time at the pump.

 

I just installed terra grapplers a couple weeks ago. I love them. They are so quiet and quiet aggressive for when ya need it. They balanced so well. Three of the five wheels I got mounted don’t even have balance weights on them!! Go for it!

 

People aren't raving about them because they're new

 

The Terra’s are my top pick for when the time comes.

 

Interesting that the 275/70s (33s) I’m looking at are 53lbs a tire. Heavier than the 34.29 TG.
https://www.americastire.com/buy-tires/nitto-terra-grappler-g2/p/10204

 

Ok I see the difference
SL and E1
https://www.americastire.com/fitmen...ce-asc:brands:brand-NIT&sort=price-asc&page=0

 

I’m running the 295/70-18 TG ll ‘s on my truck. Quiet on the highway and balanced well. They work great in the dunes, on the rocks, and on trails.
Boy do they chuck rocks though, for about a mile after I leave the dirt I’ll be hearing rocks flying off the tires.

 

SL or E1?

@2ndgenny same question for you.

 

Not sure what you’re asking? the load rating?

 

Yes standard load or E1 rating. My link shows the 2 compared

 

I’ll check right quick. If memory serves me correctly they just about 20 pounds heavier per tire than the factory LTXs

 

That most likely means you got the E1.

 

Load range E, 4080lbs per tire

 

Thank you for all this information!

 

I would recommend going with the p rated terra Grappler G2. My experience is on a first gen Tundra but it’s the same idea. I believe as I did you will feel the extra weight and the more aggressive tread of the ridge Grappler on the road. Don’t quote me on this but I’ve read for every pound of unsprung weight it’s like putting 7 pounds in the bed.

 

Damn 7 lbs? That would equate to something like 308 lbs on the 275 70s im looking at.
The only tire i find p or SL rated is the general grabber APT.
https://www.americastire.com/fitmen...rrainTires:loadRange:SL&sort=price-asc&page=0

 

Ok, I found an article about unsprung weight, pretty interesting.
https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/what-is-unsprung-weight

 

With the 5.7 tundras I would not start to worry to much about performance/drivability loss if you’re staying in the 33-34 inch tire range. If you’re highly sensitive like me, yes, you will feel everything. As long as you don’t get to wild, for example running a 35-40lb wheel and a 60-70lb tire in the mud tread variety. In my opinion the regret of that combo will set in quickly. I have quite a bit of experience with wheel and tire combos and how they feel on the road. Another example, my dad put 17x9 kmc wheels with 295/70/17 hankook rf10 tires on his 06 tundra 4.7. That was 90-95lbs per corner Absolutely there was power loss, but it was tolerable and that truck still hauled ass. Acceleration took a hit, but it would roll nicely on the highway without much extra pedal effort. If he would have gone with a more aggressive tread (mud) there would have been much more resistance and power loss.